TPBK meets resistance on dry flop.

poker stars, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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cAPS (BTN): $10.25 (105 bb)
SB: $4.90 (49 bb)
BB: $8.80 (88 bb)
UTG: $9.30 (93 bb)
MP: $0.85 (8.5 bb)
CO: $8.99 (89.9 bb)

Pre-Flop: cAPS is BTN with K J
UTG raises to $0.40, 2 folds, cAPS raises to $0.70, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.55) J 6 2 (2 players)
UTG checks, cAPS bets $1.00, UTG raises to $3.00, cAPS...

UTG is new to the table. About 8 hands I think. If I had to extrapolate a read I'd say he is about a 70/20 type player. My image is Laggy as usual at about 25/20 or so. Though he would only have the 8 hands on me too.

Was the PF play good/bad?
How do you proceed?

One reason I ask is KJ is a favorite hand of mine. Not favorite to play as it is a loser for me... but favorite to think about since it is so dangerous.

KJ against an early postion raise from an unknown is a fold, even though you say he is a monkey you haven't really confirmed that.

Preflop like I said fold if not raise a real amount not a minraise 1-1.20 I would say. Are you trying to pot build?

If the preflop raise you should have made is called on that flop I check it behind. This seems to be a WA/WB situation. either he has a overpair or set or nothing, I don't think AK floats you here but I could be wrong

His check raise more than a pot sized bet looks like he is trying to pot build so most likely an overpair or set imo. if you call he can easily shove any card on the turn and you aren't going to like it. Fold to the flop raise. you can't really have any idea where you stand in the hand and to call more than a 1/3 of your stack pot commits with you with just tpgk.

Just what I see fwiw.

edit: sorry, missed that is was 6max, I am of no help at all here.

Yeah, 3-betting the UTG raiser is not so good. 3-betting him the minimum is even worse. Preflop, I think call>3-bet>fold, if this guy is a monkey. If he doesn't suck, then I think fold>3-bet>call. But either way, 3-betting is a pretty marginal decision. You just don't want to play a bloated pot with a hand that's really only going to flop top pair, medium kicker.

Betting this flop is meh. I could go either way, but checking it back is certainly the more standard play.

I probably would have called instead of raised preflop with K, J UTG, then fold to the raise. This guy probably has A, K or A, Q. By the way, you don't have the TPBK. A, J would be TPBK, which your opponent could also have.

t1riel said:

I probably would have called instead of raised preflop with K, J UTG, then fold to the raise. This guy probably has A, K or A, Q. By the way, you don't have the TPBK. A, J would be TPBK, which your opponent could also have.

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Thanks for the comments. Seems everyone including me thinks I played the flop exactly wrong.

t1rel: FWIW I am the button, and by TPBK I meant "top pair big kicker" The K as opposed to the TOP kicker, the Ace.

cAPSLOCK said:

Thanks for the comments. Seems everyone including me thinks I played the flop exactly wrong.

t1rel: FWIW I am the button, and by TPBK I meant "top pair big kicker" The K as opposed to the TOP kicker, the Ace.

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Top pair acronyms I've heard used:

TPTK - top pair, top kicker (AK on Axx)
TPGK - top pair, good kicker (AQ on Axx)
TP2K - top pair, 2nd kicker (AQ on Axx)
TPNK - top pair, no kicker (AT or less on Axx)

I thought TPBK meant bad kicker .

t1riel said:

you don't have the TPBK. A, J would be TPBK

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c9h13no3 said:

I thought TPBK meant bad kicker .

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After a little research I think EITHER of you guy's usages (Best, or Bad) would be more common that mine (Big).

I may never learn to PLAY the game well... but I will learn to talk like I can.

Wait. How will that make me different than 95% of the other people I know?

You played bad that hand preflop...Have respect to UTG raise and wait for better hand to play on button...I would rather play some suited connectors on BTN than KJ.If you 3-bet him preflop u must bet that flop.When he raise your bet, you are into the muck.

Yeah I would fold KJ especially if I don't know anything about the other player. Definately don't raise. It's tough at this point to really put him on anything tho it looks like an overpair.

I really don't like the PF action here. As many have said above, I'd probably let this go. I'm not really interested in playing a pot with KJo, especially against an unknown.