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9 handed $25 NLHE I have $27.35 and get dealt Jh Kc 1 off the cutoff player.
2 calls then a raise to 0.50 then 2 folds and 4 calls pot=$2.50 5 players in the hand. Flop comes 9h Qh 10c, the first player bets 0.50 then 1 folds 1 call and I raise to $3.00 then 2 folds and 1 call and were heads-up pot=$9.00. Turn comes Qd he checks and I bet $4.50 then he goes all-in for $29.10 and I only have $19.35 left. What would you do here?
 
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Go for it i put him on AQ or some hand like that doubt he has a fullhouse post result please!:)
 
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Why would he go all-in if he hit a FH? Reads help a lot in situations like this but again there are many hands that you beat that could be doing this.

I'd call and take my medicine if he has the FH, he sure didn't play it smartly though if he does, he just lucky you flopped the nuts.
 
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Go for it i put him on AQ or some hand like that doubt he has a fullhouse post result please!:)

dont post results.

Why would he go all-in if he hit a FH? Reads help a lot in situations like this but again there are many hands that you beat that could be doing this.

I'd call and take my medicine if he has the FH, he sure didn't play it smartly though if he does, he just lucky you flopped the nuts.

if you are calling then Id say he played his full house very well.

I would fold.
 
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dont post results.



if you are calling then Id say he played his full house very well.

I would fold.


I disagree Brian. He gets the call (maybe) because Jace flopped a straight, almost anything else gets folded.

I'd think its very easy to lose value if you play a FH this way, CRAI. On that board Jace could even have some kind of double or single draw, or maybe medium pair with a draw, and you're making him fold those hands rather than keeping him in and getting more money.
 
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I disagree Brian. He gets the call (maybe) because Jace flopped a straight, almost anything else gets folded.

I'd think its very easy to lose value if you play a FH this way, CRAI. On that board Jace could even have some kind of double or single draw, or maybe medium pair with a draw, and you're making him fold those hands rather than keeping him in and getting more money.

shoving gets a lot more people to call then you think. Because it looks like a bluff or semi-bluff, it looks like you dont want a call. I thought the same way you did for awhile till I started watching high limit cash games.
 
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i would push it...

if he has the full house, then pay him off... the hands deserves it...
it's much more likely that he has the set of Q's...
but i won't fold it...
 
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i would push it...

if he has the full house, then pay him off... the hands deserves it...
it's much more likely that he has the trip Q's...
but i won't fold it...

fixed your post, there is a difference.
 
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Since he limped and then bet into the preflop raiser, he at least has Qx, 9x, or 10x. With the Q on the turn, I don't see any hand that bet the flop and flat call a raise to c/shove on turn, except Q9, QT, 99, TT or a complete bluff (AK, lower PP, hands that whiffed completly).

I don't see trips shoving this: it's either a bluff or a made hand that tries to disguise itself as a bluff. Fair to good hands (Qlittle, KQ, QJ, etc.) would call and push a non treathening river if given the occasion.
 
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Since he limped and then bet into the preflop raiser, he at least has Qx, 9x, or 10x. With the Q on the turn, I don't see any hand that bet the flop and flat call a raise to c/shove on turn, except Q9, QT, 99, TT or a complete bluff (AK, lower PP, hands that whiffed completly).

I don't see trips shoving this: it's either a bluff or a made hand that tries to disguise itself as a bluff. Fair to good hands (Qlittle, KQ, QJ, etc.) would call and push a non treathening river if given the occasion.

how are you going to push a non threatening river when villian is shoving turn?
 
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Please don't fold here!

He's making this bet with any queen, and most 2pair/set hand would push the flop
 
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I called his all-in and he turned over pocket tens. :rolleyes:
 
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how are you going to push a non threatening river when villian is shoving turn?

I worded my sentence strangely. It is villain, not us, that is pushing a non threatening river.
 
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Id call the shove too. As dbitel said id have expected a flopped two pair to play that flop strong against draws.

But if i was villain id shove that turn too and not wait till river. First were oop, second if opponent is sitting there with J10 or KK, we get him 2 call thinking he still has outs if behind
 
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