Thoughts? 99s vs raise in short stacked 2/5nl

white_lytning

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This hand happened last weekend at my local card room. It was a short stacked 2/5 NL game. I had about $220, enemy had $200. Enemy was BB and I was two before the button.

I am pretty familiar with the enemy we are both regulars. He plays a conservative aggressive game, and I have seen him fire at pots a lot. He is also pretty familiar with my style. I'm looser than him, but a little more aggressive. He was the only other guy at the table that was any good.

The blinds get checked around to me. I have 9s. I make it 3 bbs to go. He raises it to $70. It folds to me, and I push my stack. He calls.

My Thoughts.

It was early on in the night for me, and my first buy in. I'm looking for hands like this to build pots and out play the pretty weak table I was playing at. I was making small raises like this with marginal hands and playing well.

When he raises I wonder a few things. Why $70? What is he putting me on? I took some time before pushing to try to figure out what he was doing. He likes to slow play and trap and I didn't put him on a big hand at all. He would have called, or made a smaller raise to keep me in the hand. I was convinced he was trying to push me off of my hand thinking I had a real small pair or suited connectors. I put him on a vulnerable hand like AQ, AJ, KQ. I push with my hand for a few reasons. I want to win it right there. If he is on one of these hands he will probly go away. He knows that I don't go crazy with too many hands, and an all-in would have to make him think I had a top 2 or 3 hand. Our stacks make it hard to play after the flop. If any face card comes out and he bets, i'm commited. Id rather get it in here with the chance of him throwing it away. If he does call, and has what I put him on, its a coin flip, and I can just rebuy if I lose. If my read is wrong??? Well, then I am in big trouble.

What do you guys think of this hand? It seems like a simple hand, but there really was more to it that it seems. I had a decent read on the guy and was familiar with his style.
 
aliengenius

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You are racing or crushed. You are NEVER ahead here.
 
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Mostly True, I think there will be times when you are ahead, a smaller pair may raise like this, so will some players with suited connectors. I wanted the discussion to be more about when the race is worth it.

In this case, part of the value is in not having to race. If you can put your opponent on a weak hand the re-raise will win the pot right there enough times to make the race a profitable play.

As far as the enemy goes, calling the re-raise for his entire stack with a weak ace or KQ is a much less profitable play than the push with the 9s.
 
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You are racing or crushed. You are NEVER ahead here.

Completely true.

No matter the reasoning you shouldn't shove pre-flop on top of this guy's raise. You are beating currently: 22-88
You are racing: AK, AQ, AJ, A10, KQ, KJ, etc..
You are crushed by: 10/10+

Can't ever shove here imo
 
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Yeah, don't ever shove. I have been in both positions of the raiser when someone shoved on my AQ raise with 77 and ended up hitting (very rare--he won the race) and I have actually shoved with 99 and wasnt suprised when I lost the race. I have learned through experience that if you sit patiently and get a decent stack in the tourny and make the final table that to throw it all away on one race, AKA coin flip, is silly--but hey, some ppl are gamblers by heart,
 
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