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Alon Ipser

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Ok, I attached a screen shot of the hand history. Did I play this right and just got beat or am I a fish?
 
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i certainly wouldn't call you a fish, though i personally wouldn't have pushed all in on the river, though i'm just parinoid. always afraid of flushes, and you can't expect people to bet 'em when they flop 'em, so i probably would have called. tough hand though. ya can't win 'em all

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just wanted to add, the guy you played the hand against was definatly no fish either, bet on the flop might have driven you out, smooth call on the turn suggests weakness. good bet on the river. you were over 90% to win there against a random hand, so don't feel too bad about it

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I think I flat call the river. Smells of a slowplay as the river 6 is very unlikely to have helped his hand, and yet it's the first stage at which he becomes truly aggressive in the hand. However, a bluff here is usually common enough to make calling worthwhile. If for example a non-heart Ace or a second King comes and he suddenly comes to life, then I may well end up pushing.

Also, raise or fold preflop. Limping in 6-max is bad.
 
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I would have been cautious when the flop was all hearts. I would have called on the river. I'm surprised the other player didn't go all in after the river. :dontknow:
 
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I don't think I've seen many hands with a 3 flush flop that there hasn't been a flush on the board. Many, many folks will play 2 suited cards of any rank at any times so I'm paranoid of flushes. The first bet at the river would have scared me into calling...
 
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Alon, the all-in at the end was a bit "no-win". If he had 2 hearts he will obviously call, if he doesn't he will fold and you win small pot. A smaller bet may get a call from a pair of Kings. Obviously in this case, he'd have raised you back, and you would have had decision to make. Certainly if there was omly 1 other original caller you could consider yourself unlucky, but in your case there were 4, meaning it was a bit more likely one was holding on to 2 hearts.
 
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First off, good call pre-flop, six handed cash game this is a very playable hand some would even consider it a raising hand

Post flop, you should make a bet here. You have a gutshot straight and great flush draw. Dont overbet, just enough to keep everyone interested

The bet was slightly under the pot on the turn, which is ok, maybe even make a pot sized bet. You have to fear an Ace of something, due to the pre-flop raise, so another H hurts if he hold Ah.

You made the right move to raise on the river. Only 1 card in the whole deck loses this hand for you, sure its easy to say you overbet it, particularly as we all know the guys hand.

Personally, even though I dont play NL cash games, I would have made prob a $10/$15 raise. Dont feel downhearted to be in the mindset "how much can I make from this" rather than "Am I actually winning this hand"

I would consider myself unlucky in your position
 
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Hi - There is a lot of trapping in online poker games. You don't see it as much in live play. I don't know if they are timid players or just enjoy trapping. I personally love to trap.

If the flop came out heart, heart, heart, and I don't have the ACE, I know someone has the flush and usually the ACE. That's just the way ONLINE poker works. You don't see that a lot in live play.

Don't know why the difference. But anyway, you played it as you should but he had the better hand. Lots of online poker players play suited connectors. I love to watch a hand go to the river with lots of callers just to see what they are playing. Most times they are hands I would fold. But it sure gives me a read on the players.
 
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The bad move was pushing all in over the top.The only call you will get is off a better hand or another straight for a split pot.Unless you are holding the nuts(as he was) don't put it all in when the betting patterns suggest he may have a hand.Its unlucky but the flush draw with his call on the turn and then a raise on the river would have smelt fishy to me.Although you were unlucky i think you need to think about what your opponent has been doing through the hand.
Best move was a flat call as any 2 hearts had you beat and people will call to see the flop with any 2 suited.
Wouldn't beat yourself up about it though,it comes with experience.
 
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BTW jace, the A-J represented in your signature is an evil hand - should be banned from poker. The only hand worse is pocket jacks. Come to think of it, jacks are just evil cards...
 
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i would have tryed to let him bet and then be cautious about the size of his bet the flush should have slowed you down.

better to win small than lose big.
 
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Thanks for all the great input. To be honest, I played this a little too quick. When I went all in, I was thinking he had a set or 2 pair. I should have slowed down and thought about is some more because looking at it afterwards, I would have played it very close to the same way he did if roles were reversed. You all know the saying "If foresight were hindsight, I'd be better of by a damn sight."
 
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Alon Ipser said:
You all know the saying "If foresight were hindsight, I'd be better of by a damn sight."
like that one. never head it. i'd always heard "heinsight is 20/20" but that's not nearly as good

-n
 
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