Test your Small Stakes No Limit Hold 'Em Part 5

Hero's Action?

  • Fold

    Votes: 7 30.4%
  • Call

    Votes: 12 52.2%
  • Push

    Votes: 4 17.4%

  • Total voters
    23
dbitel

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SB ($77)
Hero ($190)
MP1 ($164)
MP2 ($11)
CO ($240)
Button ($38)


Preflop: Hero is BB with T
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T
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. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
3 folds, MP1 calls $1, MP2 calls $1, 1 fold, CO calls $1, Button calls $1, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: :ac4: :10d4: :4c4: ($6, 6 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $6, MP1 and CO call, all else fold.


Turn: :7s4: ($24, 3 players)
Hero Bets $21, MP1 calls, CO folds.


River: :jc4: ($66, 2 players)
Hero bets $35, MP1 raises to $100, Hero.....?
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Push, the only hand you should really be afraid of here is Like KQ clubs or something retarded like that, and even then you took his odds away, He is repping the flush here IMO, put him to the test and make him call with his AK
 
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My hand is shaking right now but you gotta push. He has an Ace and probably a decent kicker (maybe 10). I'm thinking the theres a 60/40 chance of having the best hand and with the amount of chips I've already put in I gotta take that chance. Cant call because he only has $36 left and you've put a lot more than that in. There is always that minute chance that he'll still fold a small flush.
 
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I'm not good enough to fold here, call.

wtf @ everyone saying push, there's no way we want to put any more chips in than we have to in this situation. I'd rather fold than shove, seriously.
 
zebranky

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Flat call

Call, and call only.
Why push? the chances that we have the best hand are good, but its not the nuts. Call, and we probably take the money from his raise.
Push, and its either he folds because he realizes we have the best hand(we've gained nothing over just calling, we still win the same amount), or he really does have the flush or straight, and he calls (so we lose even more).
No gain vs. bigger loss - just call here.
 
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Push, the only hand you should really be afraid of here is Like KQ clubs or something retarded like that, and even then you took his odds away, He is repping the flush here IMO, put him to the test and make him call with his AK

what the heck. Why is AK raising here?

I think a push is pretty bad...

Agh, $100 exactly. Purposely scary bet? Is it a bluff, or a flush pretending to be a bluff? My problem is I want to call, but I can't put him on another hand. Calling from the get-go with other players in the pot, looking for an opportunity to bluff the river... that just seems kind of crazy. Doesn't make sense, in my mind, for Ax to raise here. I can't help but think we're supposed to fold here. I'm putting him on KQc or 89c, giving his turn call a tiny bit more merit with the straight draws.
 
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I say call, no reason to push considering what villan has left and the chance he does have the flush. But why didn't villan push here? Seems like he wanted to make a big scary bet without looking like a desperation push bluff.

He could also easily have ace-10 or ace-jack here which certainly fits the betting so far. He may not believe you have the flush and indeed you bets look like a made hand rather than a drawing hand, so he probably puts you on an ace that his 2 pair beats.

No way I'm folding here, like someone said, if you don't lose alot of money with a set you weren't playing it right.
 
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call...like I said when I picked bet, I'm gonna call on a re-raise

as longshot posted: "the only hand you should really be afraid of here is Like KQ clubs or something retarded like that"

no idea why I forgot about KcQc...I was thinking only of KcJc calling
 
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for me this would be opponet depended. I would call if I thought he was capble of raising AJ or any other 2 pair there, fold if he was nitty enough where he could probably only have a flush. The way he played it is how i typically see flush draws played though. default no reads though I think I fold, but i maybe would have bet 45 or 50 because I think there's no way he raises without a flush then.
 
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Call, and call only.
Why push? the chances that we have the best hand are good, but its not the nuts. Call, and we probably take the money from his raise.
Push, and its either he folds because he realizes we have the best hand(we've gained nothing over just calling, we still win the same amount), or he really does have the flush or straight, and he calls (so we lose even more).
No gain vs. bigger loss - just call here.

Agree^^
 
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I would likely fold this hand, just because if I were in his position I could never see myself raising with A,x in this situation, unless maybe he justpaired his A,J. I think a fold would be my play as he likely has the flush.
 
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cry when he flips 89c, i think we can fold this.
 
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Called all the way, then went over the top

Despite Hero's attempts to bet enough to get everone out of the pot and to fold, MP1 called all the way.

At any time if MP1 had a strong enough hand (ie. pair of aces with big kicker) you'd think he would have also reraised Hero in case he thought Hero was just betting out a flush draw. But MP1 called all the way, as if his hand wasn't quite good enough to raise but good enough for him to call on a flush draw.

So when MP1 goes over the top and reraises Hero's hefty 1/2 pot bet, I would bet as wrong as his previous calls were, he made his hand on the river and Hero can't be sure (since he has no record of how MP1 plays) whether MP1 is bluffing or not....since there is that flush on the board now, he has to assume his set is not good anymore and fold.
 
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I will nervously call, fearing the flush but hoping he is trying to push me out with AK.
 
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We're getting 2:1. Will we be up against A-T, A-J, A-4 or 4-4 often enough to warrant a call here? Do these hands make sense? Maybe. If he was slowplaying the turn (I don't know why he'd want to do that, but people aren't generally rational) and flat calling to hope to lure CO to call as well, then it could make some sense. But he's gotta wonder what we're betting with as well, and it's not out of this world to be semi-bluffing with a flush draw in this hand.

I fold in this spot. If he's making a move on me, he's pretty daring. So many players are calling stations that he cannot assume that an unknown player will be able to fold two pair here if he himself only has A-Q. 4-4 and A-J and such would loathe being re-raised on this river so much that the mere thought of that ought to make them call instead of raising us.

Naw, he says he has it and I think he has it more than the 67% of the time that the pot is laying me. I don't think calling is +EV.
 
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still call

Forgot to mention - I'm assuming our opponent is at least semi-rational, capable of reading pot odds and not a complete donk. Given no reads on the table, I have to assume the bad guy is an "average" player.

look at the betting habits here, and our opponent only has one of three hands: AJ, 44 or the flush. All 3 could limp the flop, and all 3 will call the flop bet Hero makes.
With the size of the bet on the turn, a FD should have folded - not impossible to call on the implied odds, but most people will fold it here.
44 is still calling (he's got a set, so he'll let you bet for him). AJ might call (wondering what your kicker is), might fold.

The betting so far points towards hero having an A - it is really hard to read that a new player has a set.

River J. 44 still has his set, no pair on the board, and Hero's bets make it unlikely hero has a flush - He has to put hero on an A, so he will raise to try and get some more chips out of Hero. AJ now has top 2 pair, and will raise because he knows he now beats any other A. The bad-odds flush also raises.
So we beat two out of three probable raising hands - and the flush is the least likely hand of the three. that's an easy call for me.
 
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