Test your Small Stakes No Limit Hold 'Em Part 2

Should hero check here planning to check raise, or bet out?

  • Check

    Votes: 3 10.0%
  • Bet

    Votes: 27 90.0%

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dbitel

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SB ($77)
Hero ($190)
MP1 ($164)
MP2 ($11)
CO ($240)
Button ($38)


Preflop: Hero is BB with T
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T
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. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
3 folds, MP1 calls $1, MP2 calls $1, 1 fold, CO calls $1, Button calls $1, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: :ac4: :10d4: :4c4: ($6, 6 players)
SB checks, Hero....
 
JimboJim

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Bet at least $6. You probably have the best hand...a check might keep the betting low enough for some to stay in with a flush or striagh draw but the ace theat is out there will also stay in. Hopefully he puts you on a kicker weaker than his.
 
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You got to bet because of the two clubs on the board. Don't let them outdraw you for free.
 
Dorkus Malorkus

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I like leading here.

Someone almost has to have an Ace here, and they're almost certainly not going to go away if you lead, whereas if you check-raise you are identifying your hand as very strong and may fold out weak aces, which you really don't want to do considering you're waaaay ahead of them. It's also entirely possible that a couple of players are just playing random suited cards, and we don't want to run the risk of giving a free card to a flush draw, of course.

It's also possible someone else has a big hand (AT, 44), and by leading we will be able to get a 3-bet in when raised (I guess 44 might 3-bet us if check-raised though, but AT is less likely to) and thus get more money out of our opponent(s) should a scare card (club) come on the turn.
 
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Lead and come over the top of any reraise. You'll protect vs straight and flush draws, and will certainly get action from most aces.
 
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I like checking here, with 5 players seeing the flop I feel somone will bet this flop, You can come over the top of AK and probably still get a call. You guys are playing too scared of the draws here.
 
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I say check here, and Raise any bet.
with this many people in, an A on the board and a possible FD, someone will bet this for you, and you can then raise the bettor for more value. You're hoping someone has AT or AK here, and that they'll bet and then call/RR you.
 
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I prefer to bet here. There is only one hand that beats you now and that is AA. However if a club or 2 or 3 comes alot of possible hands can beat you since there were so many limpers that could be holdoing anything. If there were only one or 2 left I would consider check/raising here but with 5 someone almost certainly has an ace and will probably call or raise. There may even be 2 people with aces. In this secerio we have had the best hand twice and didn't bet either time, what exactly are we waiting for?. Nobody showed strenth before the flop so tha chances of someone having ace-king or ace-queen is lessened so even weak aces might just check here fearing a stronger ace.

In my opinion, you absolulty cannot give a free card here.
 
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Having raised PF, the flush rag draw is less likely...since our hero checked, ya gotta bet now...risking putting out callers...but I'd rather KNOW I'm against AQ or AJ ...anyone with KKc or QQc would have most likely raise PF I want th XX club rags to pay for that draw....better to win $6 than win $0 to a rag flush...the guy I'm worried about limped in with KcXc
 
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I bet here, too risky without any reads to check and hope someone else bets out.. Don't want to give away a free card, especially if it's a K/Q/J of clubs :(
 
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I don't even bet out here for fear of giving a free card as much as I bet out because check-raising here gives our opponent a much, much better read on our hand.
 
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I'd lead with about 3/4 of the pot... probably $5, hopefully its enough to chase the flush draw or straight draws, and someone holding A,x will likely call or reraise depending on what x is.
 
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Get the flush draws out

You don't want to check, the only way you'd do that is if you were check raising a rainbow board.

But with a potential flush draw, you don't want to give a free card. You need to bet this out and not mind that the only one who might stay in is the player who paired up his ace.

Probably 2/3 the pot or the pot is a good bet...it makes the odds 2:1 which isn't good enough for flush draws, they need pot odds of 5:1 to call.

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I have to bet - not afraid to admit I am afraid of the possible flush. Woulkd rather win less than lose a lot.
 
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Slowplaying has a couple of criterias that need to be fulfilled in order to be correct. Among these are that the pot needs to be small (yup!) and that it's likely that someone may improve to a second-best hand (nope!). We're not risking someone improving to a second best hand, we're risking someone improving to a best hand, and that's not good.

Besides, we just checked our option in the BB. No one is going to give us credit for a monster if we bet out, so deception is on our side here. However, and this is important, if I'm on the button with a flush draw and you accidently flash your cards to me in the BB, I would still call a pot sized bet. If a third club falls on the turn, you will still pay me off enough to have warranted the $6 I put in on this flop. Sure, you could do a ridiculous overbet (all-in, or so) and I'd have to toss my 9c8c, but don't kid yourself into thinking that a flush draw would be smart to fold to even a pot sized bet on this flop. No, we should bet, but it's primarily in order to get worse hands to call, not to fold out flush draws. Giving free cards suck but not because someone will draw out on us for free, but because we fail to get paid all the times that they miss.

Bet. $4-6 seems like a good amount; flush draws and weak aces will call; strong aces and two-pair+ hands will even raise. Good for us.
 
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Pot bet. (And if I followed my original decision on what to do, the pot would have been bigger:D )
You want callers and a $6 bet is definetly going to bring that.
 
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I bet. We have no idea how anyone plays at this table. If I was at the table for a while and knew there was an excellent chance someone else was going to raise, then I might check. Here we can't make that assumption.
 
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