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Stage #1046173621: Holdem No Limit $0.50 - 2008-08-07 18:26:42 (ET)
Table: LABRADOR DR (real money) Seat #5 is the dealer
Seat 5 - DARKMAN1000 ($16.70 in chips)
Seat 6 - NICHOLAS ($32.75 in chips)
Seat 1 - SLANTEVEND ($23.15 in chips)
Seat 3 - 6THSTPOKER ($53.70 in chips)
Seat 4 - DAXAMILLION ($19.08 in chips)
NICHOLAS - Posts small blind $0.25
SLANTEVEND - Posts big blind $0.50
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to DAXAMILLION [X X]
6THSTPOKER - Raises $1.75 to $1.75
DAXAMILLION - Calls $1.75
DARKMAN1000 - Folds
NICHOLAS - Folds
SLANTEVEND - Folds
*** FLOP *** [Jh 8h 5s]
6THSTPOKER - Bets $3
DAXAMILLION - Raises $10 to $10
6THSTPOKER - Raises $31.25 to $34.25
DAXAMILLION - All-In $7.33
6THSTPOKER - returned ($16.92) : not called
*** TURN *** [Jh 8h 5s] [2s]
*** RIVER *** [Jh 8h 5s 2s] [7h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
6THSTPOKER - Shows [Js Ac] (One pair, jacks)
anything i did wrong here and what i might have??

ill post results in a while
 
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Kinda hard to tell without seeing your hole cards. Exactly what kind of analysis are you looking for?
 
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u reraised his bet on flop, so i guess you have 55 or 88, u are asking anything u did wrong, so u may have had 2 hearts, if so, i think u did wrong by putting all money on a coinflop. but i still think u had set.
 
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No reads on the opponent?

Flat call the UTG raise, IMHO, puts you on AQs,AJs, KQs, KJs, 77-TT
If you had AK, AA-JJ I'd expect a 3-bet
Raise the C-bet narrows your range to 55, 88, AhQh, KhQh and calling the AI doesn't change this.
So opponent has to be discounting trips and putting you on a FD to make the shove.
 
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We can't call it 'standard' or 'spew' without knowing what our reads on villain are and how he views us, or rather if he pays enough attention to have taken any reads on us.
 
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Unless u have 55,88,jj or qq.kk.aa or some kinda str8 or fl dr or str8 fldr then It's seems definitely spewy I think.
 
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I think daxter means is it standard for our opponent to stack AJo on this flop given daxter's flop action.
 
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We can't call it 'standard' or 'spew' without knowing what our reads on villain are and how he views us, or rather if he pays enough attention to have taken any reads on us.

this was like 7 hand of session...showed AK first hand and KK the hand b4 this one..and this was first hand ths guy had been in...

so results below..i rectum what i was asking is shoviung TPTK standard??

excyse my tuypinmg, i cut my finger off yesterday...

Stage #1046173621: Holdem No Limit $0.50 - 2008-08-07 18:26:42 (ET)
Table: LABRADOR DR (Real Money) Seat #5 is the dealer
Seat 5 - DARKMAN1000 ($16.70 in chips)
Seat 6 - NICHOLAS ($32.75 in chips)
Seat 1 - SLANTEVEND ($23.15 in chips)
Seat 3 - 6THSTPOKER ($53.70 in chips)
Seat 4 - DAXAMILLION ($19.08 in chips)
NICHOLAS - Posts small blind $0.25
SLANTEVEND - Posts big blind $0.50
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to DAXAMILLION [Jd Jc]
6THSTPOKER - Raises $1.75 to $1.75
DAXAMILLION - Calls $1.75
DARKMAN1000 - Folds
NICHOLAS - Folds
SLANTEVEND - Folds
*** FLOP *** [Jh 8h 5s]
6THSTPOKER - Bets $3
DAXAMILLION - Raises $10 to $10
6THSTPOKER - Raises $31.25 to $34.25
DAXAMILLION - All-In $7.33
6THSTPOKER - returned ($16.92) : not called
*** TURN *** [Jh 8h 5s] [2s]
*** RIVER *** [Jh 8h 5s 2s] [7h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
6THSTPOKER - Shows [Js Ac] (One pair, jacks)
DAXAMILLION - Shows [Jd Jc] (Three of a kind, jacks)
DAXAMILLION Collects $36.51 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($38.91) | Rake ($1.90) | Jackpot Rake ($0.50)
Board [Jh 8h 5s 2s 7h]
Seat 1: SLANTEVEND (big blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 3: 6THSTPOKER HI:lost with One pair, jacks [Js Ac - P:Js,B:Jh,P:Ac,B:8h,B:7h]
Seat 4: DAXAMILLION won Total ($36.51) All-In HI $36.51) with Three of a kind, jacks [Jd Jc - B:Jh,P:Jd,P:Jc,B:8h,B:7h]
Seat 5: DARKMAN1000 (dealer) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 6: NICHOLAS (small blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS

:cool:
 
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Well again you're not giving us reads on yourself. The hands you had previous to this don't matter; how you played them does.

If I'm in villain's shoes and you're someone who raises draws, made hands and air, I probably will shove that flop. If you're only doing it with monster made hands and combo draws, folding is probably best.
 
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Well again you're not giving us reads on yourself. The hands you had previous to this don't matter; how you played them does.

If I'm in villain's shoes and you're someone who raises draws, made hands and air, I probably will shove that flop. If you're only doing it with monster made hands and combo draws, folding is probably best.

7 hands and u showed 2 big hands...this table payed no attention..see!!

Stage #1046210454: Holdem No Limit $0.50 - 2008-08-07 19:21:48 (ET)
Table: LABRADOR DR (Real Money) Seat #3 is the dealer
Seat 3 - 6THSTPOKER ($97.80 in chips)
Seat 4 - DAXAMILLION ($21.01 in chips)
Seat 1 - MICHELE_MICH ($20.70 in chips)
Seat 2 - SIDETABLE ($12.95 in chips)
DAXAMILLION - Posts small blind $0.25
MICHELE_MICH - Posts big blind $0.50
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to DAXAMILLION [Qs Qc]
SIDETABLE - Folds
6THSTPOKER - Folds
DAXAMILLION - Raises $1.25 to $1.50
MICHELE_MICH - Calls $1
*** FLOP *** [2c 8d 4s]
DAXAMILLION - Bets $3
MICHELE_MICH - Calls $3
*** TURN *** [2c 8d 4s] [Jd]
DAXAMILLION - Bets $15.50
MICHELE_MICH - Calls $15.50
*** RIVER *** [2c 8d 4s Jd] [9d]
DAXAMILLION - Bets $1
MICHELE_MICH - All-In $0.70
DAXAMILLION - returned ($0.30) : not called
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DAXAMILLION - Shows [Qs Qc] (One pair, queens)
MICHELE_MICH - Mucks
DAXAMILLION Collects $38.90 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($41.40) | Rake ($2) | Jackpot Rake ($0.50)
Board [2c 8d 4s Jd 9d]
Seat 1: MICHELE_MICH (big blind) HI: [Mucked] [3d 4h]
Seat 2: SIDETABLE Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 3: 6THSTPOKER (dealer) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 4: DAXAMILLION (small blind) won Total ($38.90) HI:($38.90) with One pair, queens [Qs Qc - P:Qs,P:Qc,B:Jd,B:9d,B:8d]
:cool: :cool: :D :D :cool: :cool:
 
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Dealt to DAXAMILLION [Jd Jc]
6THSTPOKER - Raises $1.75 to $1.75
DAXAMILLION - Calls $1.75

So is it like standard in 6max to flat an UTG raise w/ JJ and not 3-bet???
 
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So is it like standard in 6max to flat an UTG raise w/ JJ and not 3-bet???

Depends on the villain, but unless villain has stats of like 8/6/2 or something this is a standard 3 bet 99% of the time for me.

But I'm too drunk to have noticed that 1st time round so thx for bringign that to my attention :D
 
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So is it like standard in 6max to flat an UTG raise w/ JJ and not 3-bet???

if it aint broke..dont fuk it up...:cool:

Stage #1046236038: Holdem No Limit $0.50 - 2008-08-07 19:57:33 (ET)
Table: LABRADOR DR (Real Money) Seat #5 is the dealer
Seat 5 - KPSMYLN ($10.55 in chips)
Seat 6 - DAXAMILLION ($41.81 in chips)
Seat 1 - MARVJONESI ($67.63 in chips)
Seat 2 - DOUBLEDA ($60.15 in chips)
Seat 3 - DA_NUTZZZ ($143.03 in chips)
Seat 4 - RAVEDAD ($29.15 in chips)
DAXAMILLION - Posts small blind $0.25
MARVJONESI - Posts big blind $0.50
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to DAXAMILLION [Jd Js]
DOUBLEDA - Calls $0.50
DA_NUTZZZ - Folds
RAVEDAD - Raises $2 to $2
KPSMYLN - Calls $2
DAXAMILLION - Calls $1.75
MARVJONESI - Folds
DOUBLEDA - Calls $1.50
*** FLOP *** [3d Jc 7s]
DAXAMILLION - Checks
DOUBLEDA - Checks
RAVEDAD - Checks
KPSMYLN - Checks
*** TURN *** [3d Jc 7s] [Kd]
DAXAMILLION - Checks
DOUBLEDA - Checks
RAVEDAD - Bets $4.25
KPSMYLN - Calls $4.25
DAXAMILLION - Raises $19 to $19
DOUBLEDA - Folds
RAVEDAD - All-In(Raise) $22.90 to $27.15
KPSMYLN - All-In $4.30
DAXAMILLION - Calls $8.15
*** RIVER *** [3d Jc 7s Kd] [2s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
RAVEDAD - Shows [Ad Kc] (One pair, kings)
KPSMYLN - Shows [10d 9d] (king high)
DAXAMILLION - Shows [Jd Js] (Three of a kind, jacks)
DAXAMILLION Collects $35.64 from side pot-1
DAXAMILLION Collects $32.21 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($71.35:$34.15,$37.20) | Rake ($3:$1.44,$1.56) | Jackpot Rake ($0.50:$0.50,$0)
Board [3d Jc 7s Kd 2s]
Seat 1: MARVJONESI (big blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 2: DOUBLEDA Folded on the TURN
Seat 3: DA_NUTZZZ Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 4: RAVEDAD HI:lost with One pair, kings [Ad Kc - B:Kd,P:Kc,P:Ad,B:Jc,B:7s]
Seat 5: KPSMYLN (dealer) HI:lost with king high [10d 9d - B:Kd,B:Jc,P:10d,P:9d,B:7s]
Seat 6: DAXAMILLION (small blind) won Total ($67.85) HI:($67.85) with Three of a kind, jacks [Jd Js - P:Js,P:Jd,B:Jc,B:Kd,B:7s]
:cool: :cool: :D :D :cool: :cool:
 
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Dax, just coz it worked that time doesn't mean it's right. You should be value betting that hand pf like always imo.
 
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Running hot there Dax, keep it up!!!
 
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Dax, just coz it worked that time doesn't mean it's right. You should be value betting that hand pf like always imo.

ok.. i 3bet and AK shoves...am i callin JJ preflop??:eek: :smile: :eek:
 
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Stop playing JJ for set value at 6 max please, 3 bet 100% with jj at 6 max.

As for your question above, a,k rarely shoves from my esperience, they are much more likely to flat call, if they do shove, considering the fact they only have about 60 bb's i probably do end up calling based on the amount i would already have in pot from 3 betting.

(all read and stat dependant of course)
 
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Stop playing JJ for set value at 6 max please, 3 bet 100% with jj at 6 max.

As for your question above, a,k rarely shoves from my esperience, they are much more likely to flat call, if they do shove, considering the fact they only have about 60 bb's i probably do end up calling based on the amount i would already have in pot from 3 betting.

(all read and stat dependant of course)

dat was just itt switch..7 hands in session and no reads..and i rarely like to get in a raising war preflop...and frim my exoerience, AK shoves all the time, lol.:cool:
 
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And you're a favourite over ak. It's a cash game - you have an equity edge, you exploit it.

Swallow your pride and listen to what these helpful people are saying dude.
 
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