Should I have folded?

I was VERY close to folding, and probably should have after the turn, but something told me to stay in.
Villain had only played a few hands and so far was loose and passive (which should have been reason enough to fold) but was a donkey like the rest of 'em and so i thought i might hold on to the river with my AK hand.
I was glad the river was another spade, or I really would have had a decision to make as he probably would have pushed.

Any opinions? should i have laid this down? (ignoring results)

No, you played it right. You were the aggressor in the hand, and he didn't show a lot of strength pre flop. I think you made the right read. It was a tough call, but your instincts were right.

All I know is that twice in the past week I've held that identical hand with the K only hitting the flop and very similar betting by me and the other player, minus the checks at the end. First time I got beat by the set the guy flopped, and the second time the guy flopped 2 pair. It's dangerous for sure, but I can't say for sure if it's a case of playing it badly or just bad luck.

That is to say, I've held AK more than twice, but twice that nearly identical situation occured.

If you had know he was a tight player I'm sure you would have folded to a $40 bet. His call on your raise after the flop and the HUGE bet on the turn, I would read this as a he made his set with pocket 10s on the turn and I would have ran like a little girl. lol
Good read on the bluff and way to take the pot down!!!

Nah, you weren't going to let the A,K go no matter what and he wasn't going to let the 77's go either. This was a case on both sides where "I have the best hand no matter what is bet and I am going to call, raise with it".

I would have been worried about QJ on the turn, judging by the size of his bet. Looking at his betting, it looks like he had made up his mind to bluff his way through and represent the big hand. Or he is just really horrible.

I'm not sure what I would have done on the turn tbh. With a straight draw up there...TPTK isn't looking so good. There are so many hands that could have beat you. Two pair, p10s, pKs (though probably unlikely), heck even K 10--a lot of people play those like they're gold. Especially loose/passive players like what you describe this opponent as. So I think it was a dangerous call, but it worked out for you in the end.

You played it just like i would have played it, folding was not an option in this particular hand, good job Chuck>>>>>>>>>>>>> buck:hello:

the thing i was really scared of was a set from the flop.
He reraised me (though it was a minraise) so fast i was 90% sure i was beat...but I just had a feeling i was ahead - i think he would either have led out for more or check raised me with a set.
Thanks for the input guys

Well Chuck, I remember being in a similar situation where I had Ace King with two spades on the flop and went all in and a certain opponent call me with Ace-rag spade suited. I lost when the spade hit on the river. Let me refresh your memory https://www.cardschat.com/showthread.php?t=68508

Anyway, I would have reraised on the flop, reraised on the turn and maybe check on the river. So, to answer your question, I wouldn't have folded.

twizzybop said:

Nah, you weren't going to let the A,K go no matter what and he wasn't going to let the 77's go either. This was a case on both sides where "I have the best hand no matter what is bet and I am going to call, raise with it".

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Twizzy, unless that's sarcasm in your voice, you're exactly right. His bad play or bad bluff is no excuse for yours. You can outplay Donks like Chuck, don't get lead into the dark tunnel. The correct answer is...FOLD! Let's not be results oriented.

Hmmm, what are my options?

buckster436 said:

You played it just like i would have played it, folding was not an option in this particular hand, good job Chuck>>>>>>>>>>>>> buck:hello:

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Folding is definately an option on this hand. For me this is a 50/50 decision that would depend on my read of the player. But remember, this is still only one pair. Sure, I call on the river 95% of the time, but that bet on the turn has me considering all options...including a fold.

The reason ChuckT even asked the question is that folding IS an option. As he knows, there is a lot of money to be made off of folks who hold TP/TK!

Four Dogs said:

You can outplay Donks like Chuck, don't get lead into the dark tunnel.

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Oops! You can outplay Donks like THIS Chuck. Sorry about that.

Twizzy, unless that's sarcasm in your voice, you're exactly right. His bad play or bad bluff is no excuse for yours. You can outplay Donks like Chuck, don't get lead into the dark tunnel. The correct answer is...FOLD! Let's not be results oriented.

No that wasn't sarcasm at all. Just calling what I see, which is neither player was going to lay the hand down, bet, raise, and re-raise no matter what. I never ever said it was a bad play by Chuck what so ever. Villian was caught at bluffing, but bluffing is never a bad thing. Everyone gets caught now and then at bluffing so its not a big deal. His bet after the flop is a great move I like to use myself when I do have a monster hand.
Instead of check-raising.. you throw the mini-bet out to conceal your strong hand then re-raise the raiser. The mini bet means 1 of 2 things, either you have a hand or have a very weak hand. Now the turn the villian figures he took control of the hand with the re-raise, he bet out again. Being strongly out of position here, the villian tried to regain the advantage because of his postion.

Now the question remains would chuck have folded if he bet out on the river with a flush and a straight showing?

If this hand was played diffrently by the villian would have Chuck folded at any point?

Now please explain about which poor play(that I wouldn't be afraid to show) cause again it helps me, also helps others not to make such a poor play. Yet I won't play the cards cause I have a feeling.

Now would I have folded? I definatly would have thought about it. I stop trying to make rush decisions which has better helped my game.
Would chuck be kicking himself in the butt if villian had a straight, flush or a set?

Sorry Twizzy, for a minute there I thought you had aquired some form of reason. The poor play I'm refering to is nilorrbs rediculous bluff attempt and Chucks unwillingness to consider the possibility that he was up against 2 pair or better. Like that never happens. By Chucks own admission he had only seen a few hands from this guy and described him as loose and passive. Well, I don't know how good a read you can get on anyone in 3 or 4 hands, but either way, this was NOT passive betting. Calling that $40 bet on the turn was reckless and unnecessary for a good player. There's no shame in getting bluffed out of a pot. Doesn't mean you believed it, it just means your not going to risk that much on TPTK without a very good read on your opponent. As Bill Hallorian said, "TPTK gives implied odds, it doesn't get them".