Should I have folded?

TimovieMan

TimovieMan

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
Jan 16, 2016
Total posts
2,264
Chips
0
Blind v blind, I'm calling down, expecting to see AK/KQ/KJ WAY more than QJ/TT/99.
 
M

mauroc711

Enthusiast
Silver Level
Joined
Oct 15, 2015
Total posts
70
Chips
0
It is closed, I think that AK its a hand that was possibly too.

Possibly I would have done call, which would not have done is the continuation bet on the flop.
 
S

subdylzep

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Jun 18, 2015
Total posts
143
Chips
0
Good fold for sure, Dont listen to these guys. You put in enough bets there to find out where you were. Personally, I think he hit the straight, I have no doubt in my mind w that many bets on the board. If at the very least he had 10K, but he had a very low trap reraise, so i think for sure he turned the nutz. Good fold. I haven't seen how this particular person played however and thats going to reason into it way more than anything else. I think folding right there was a good choice. I think he could have easily had KQ as well, The reason for that is that you continuation bet on the flop w nothing and then he turned a higher pair, putting you on a pair of 10s on the flop, maybe even Js or Qs. So from his perspective w a low reraise he can guage where he is in the hand without risking too much, and an obvious call from him on the flop w the nut gutshot as a draw to a low pot w great implied odds. The more i think about the fractions im gonna say he might have had KQ just to see how you acted to the check raise on the turn. This is the problem w low stakes and not knowing how the person is playing. It was either JQ or KQ. I think you can put a small 3 bet to find out exactly where you are, on the turn that is. But if he hits the straight you have no way to know it. I think if you check the flop you see the hand to the end for much less and play it much more conservatively, losing about the same as you would if you played it that way and gaining more information. I still think its a good fold. You just werent getting enough value to make the call in that situation. Gl in future events. PS stay away from low stakes online, You might as well pull the slot machine lever.
 
Vitaliy Popik

Vitaliy Popik

Enthusiast
Silver Level
Joined
Jun 16, 2016
Total posts
74
Chips
0
Good fold i think. He was have a straight.. But and bluff.. Maybe he bluffing?
 
andyt5303

andyt5303

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Dec 22, 2015
Total posts
362
Awards
1
Chips
1
I think it was a good fold. However I feel like QJ might be inclined to fold the 3 bet preflop (I may be wrong given his stack size). Tens on the other hand I think are more likely. If he had tens he's flopped the nuts and is probably expecting you to have two over cards AK/AQ with your 3 bet pre. If that is the case an A or a K on the turn is the dream card for him to 3 bet you. Either way I'd say that was a sound fold : )
 
SuzdalDEcor

SuzdalDEcor

Visionary
Silver Level
Joined
Feb 25, 2016
Total posts
797
Chips
0
JQ vs 3bet? It just was KQ or QQ, JJ. You must call i think...
 
Harold

Harold

Rising Star
Bronze Level
Joined
Jun 22, 2016
Total posts
9
Chips
0
Without any info on villain, I call turn and fold almost all rivers to a big bet. Guys at this level are typically inexperienced and can/will check-raise turn with a lot of hands we beat, but they are typically unlikely to barrel river with less than the goods.
 
S

Sidetracked

Legend
Bronze Level
Joined
Jun 30, 2016
Total posts
1,294
Awards
2
Chips
0
Honestly, I think your bet sizing is too small and could easily have made your opponent think you were weak. Blind vs blind in a 3 bet pot, I'm not folding there.
 
V

vassiriki

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
May 2, 2016
Total posts
135
Chips
0
he is most of the time not bluffing at that spot. but i don't think he'd have qj there calling a 3-bet but it's micro stakes so you never know! still, i think he had either ak like you or maybe he's a crazy guy and he called with k9 or k10 but definitely with something. it's not a crazy bluff, be sure of that
 
B

Broon1234

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Jun 11, 2016
Total posts
132
Chips
0
this is where what villain has shown in previous hands would be helpful. good fold if he hasn't shown a bluff
 
TimovieMan

TimovieMan

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
Jan 16, 2016
Total posts
2,264
Chips
0
this is where what villain has shown in previous hands would be helpful. good fold if he hasn't shown a bluff
If he has shown a bluff before, then this would probably be a better fold. Sure, some people show their bluffs because they're proud of them and are hoping to tilt you, but most others will do so to set up a value raise later on...
 
Shumkoolie

Shumkoolie

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
Jan 5, 2010
Total posts
1,209
Awards
1
Chips
0
I think villain's range is capped to either air or a big hand. If it's a competent player that you're up against, and understands generalized 3-bet tendencies, they are likely putting you on AK with your pre-flop 3bet and can probably get you to fold on a draw heavy board. They probably had some pocket pair, even as low as 8's.

If it's an ABC player, they most likely just hit their draw and had QJ. It's up to you to decide which of these players it is. You took the safer route.

FWIW, on draw heavy boards on the turn, after villain check-called you on the flop and then checked again, I'm checking behind almost 100% of the time to see what they do on the river and evaluate from there. It's amazing how often players check the nuts with the intention of check-raising, whether it's on the turn or especially on the river. People lose so much potential value in those spots. It's as if they think it's still 2007 where slowplaying a big hand is +EV (of course to balance my range, I'll do that some of the time :) ).
 
M

Mantones

Visionary
Silver Level
Joined
Feb 7, 2015
Total posts
658
Awards
1
Chips
0
I think you must call there bro
 
J

joe777

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
May 3, 2014
Total posts
2,694
Chips
0
Tough spot here,but just by looking at the villain stacks compared to yours,I agree with the call then reevaluate on the river.Need more info tho.
 
Folding in Poker
Top