shorthanded NL hand

2/4 shorthanded hand.
I was playing fairly aggressive, and not quite tight, but not loose either.
2eazy is a decent player, fairly tight and aggressive.
That's why i didn't put him on this hand.
What do you think, fold the turn?
I called because i felt that he raised because he sensed weakness with a small bet and a cold call, but in actuality he called with a garbage hand PF and ended up getting a lucky flop. Then again i got a lucky river.
River check by me is weak too, but i was pretty confused with this hand.
Needless to say, 2eazy exploded with "f*cking fish" and likewise comments i replied by asking him how he could call a pf raise with 53?
Opinions?

Looks like no one else wants to venture a reply here. Guess I'll give it a stab.

Yes, his PF call was typical Titan fish-like. Then he had position on you.

As far as the turn: Well, you were kind of at a decision point that would be hard to argue one way or the other. On one hand, the board was paired and Mr.Fish could have the 3rd (K3 even). On the other, you were somewhat committed and had decent pot odds with your pair.

The river check was not bad. He might have folded anyway.

Just feel lucky you didn't have AA and got rooked.

MrSticker said:

The river check was not bad. He might have folded anyway.

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You can't use "he might have folded" as a justification for not value betting this river with what is the best hand 99% of the time.

Dorkus Malorkus said:

You can't use "he might have folded" as a justification for not value betting this river with what is the best hand 99% of the time.

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Yes. You are right, DM. I guess I was too short. I should have elaborated like this:

"The river check was not too bad. You could have value bet, but he might have folded anyway. The way it turned out you got to see what this joker had and could use this info against him later. I always like to see what they have and write notes on them for later use."

There. Now completed for debate.

I look at it as "see how much playing something like 35 suited can cost you even if you hit the flop." When you play with low cards like that, there is always the danger of the bigger set, full house, flush or striaght.

He got extremely lucky flop and you just caught up. You were at least a 60/40 leader before the flop. It happens. He should have been out of the hand preflop. You can play a hand perfectly and still lose like he did. He outplayed you on this hand but you out drew him on the cards.

He didnt play the hand well at all. I dont see how he can call that kinda raise with that hand

He probably partly called because he had position on you but then he didnt really take advantage of the position because he checked in behind you.

This would have been a difficult read on your opponent because he calls a big preflop bet, checked the flop, then re-raises the river. Unless he has AA, AK or KQ, you are most likely ahead in the hand due to the fact you couldnt vision him calling with a 3 in his hand, or perhaps 77.

I think the only bad mistake you made was checking the river, as at this stage you lose only to 33 in the hole.

Nice pot though

nobody thought i played this poorly?
im not saying necessarily that i did, but disregarding his strange PF call, i probably should have been more careful and possibly folded his big turn raise with a pair on board.
River play i was just plain confused lol

What poker site was this, Chuck?

titan

King-Seven can also beat Chucks hand, though highly unlikely he would make the pre-flop raise, call.
But as we can see from the screenshot, this puppy was likely to call with almost any Two cards on this occasion.

zinzan1000

I have no problem calling the turn - you have top pair. If he is a tight player like you said, you would never put him on a 3, therefor he is trying to buy the pot.

If you think you are confused about the river, I see Ks full of 3s and 3s full of Ks and neither one of you bet - that's confusing. Both are DAMN good hands that I am definitely betting.

This clown had no busniess being in the hand and as usual, the better hand pre-flop is the winner after the river. Congrats!!!!

BTW, not sure how you are a fish since you had 2 pair after the turn, it's not like you hit a straight or a flush on the river. If he wanted you to fold, he should have went all-in.

i know - the river was strange - i think i did one of those autochecks before i even saw the card (or realized what it was) and really should have led out.

LOL, when you said I was confused about the river, I was like what is he talking about? You have the 2nd nuts in this situation, (quad 3's the only hand that can beat you.) Hate when I do the auto check thingy too.

I got trip 10's on the flop, and the turn resulted in a straight draw (9 10 J Q), so I checked thinking he had straight. I checked the river automatically too, but river was 10 . He checked too.