short stacked cashgame 1/2 nl

mellyy85

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1/2 no limit

guy first to act whos played solid raises it to ten ( he has about 200 bucks)
everyone folds to me and im left of the button i look down at jj and im short stacked with 60$ i reraise it 30 more is that too much? Everyone folded to him and he thought for a while then showed his 99 and folded. was this bet too much ? and if so how mucch should i have made it thanks guys
 
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You might as well gone all in at that point. But if you're going to raise that's your only option. Either call or push imo
 
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If you're going to reraise this $30 more then you should just shove because you're pot committed anyway with only $20 left. Your raise to $40 has made this pot $53, so if he reraises and puts you all-in pot will be $103 and $20 for you to go, giving you also 5 to 1 which are correct odds to call even you're up against an overpair (AA, KK or QQ).

I think the better question here is: should I reraise with JJ against a player that I would describe as solid, after he has raised 5 BB from UTG and I'm shortstacked? The fact he had 99 is irrelevant, that's being results oriented. If you have a deep stack then I think you probably should reraise ( $20 more is enough) considering you also have position on him, but in the above scenario any significant reraise kind of commits you, leaving you w/o an escape hatch if he re- reraises you with a monster hand.

If you're going to play shortstacked you need to adjust, it can be a winning strategy but only if you play it correctly. There are bullets to dodge both short and big stacked, and you must always plan ahead in both situations, but the thought process and strategies are totally different.

I'm not necessarily saying that the hand above was played incorrectly, depending on opponent it still might even be the right play. I'm just trying to make you aware of how pot odds really change when you're shortstacked.

I know the reason you posted this hand is because you were way ahead and you're thinking you lost a chance to get more out of him, but that I can't really answer, because it also depends on your image and how they percieve you, how many times you've reraised in position, what hands have you brought to showdown in those scenarios, etc. There is just too much involved to be able to answer that. However consider this: villain is UTG with 99, raises 5 BB's and gets reraised from the CO to 20 BB's. Are there really many cases where even you make this call? It will certainly depend on opponent, but I think I can safely say its a fold more times than not, also considering you're shortstacked so, knowing he's behind, he no longer can play this hand for set value and has very little chance, if any at all, to steal this pot with you being left with $20. It's a no win situation for him after your reraise.

More than that I really can't add about knowing if you could have gotten more from this hand, apologies if that disappoints you.
 
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What you did was correct up to a certain point: you should've pushed all-in preflop as the hands that raised 5bb (High to med pp) will be more likely to call that all-in than call a bet from you on the flop if they didn't it or the board comes scary (59Q all spades for example).

His fold was normal as was you reraising him: dude probably didn't like his 99 against a shorstack (as he doesn't get good implied odds if he hits his set) and I understand him. Had you had 120$, he probably would've called and you would've at least extracted a good chunk out of hist stack had the flop came 582 rainbow. This is the major drawback of playing shortstacked in a ring game, you're much less likely to get action preflop, unless from a hand that is probably in front.
 
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