River push

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Do you think pushing this river is +EV?
Opponent is 25/16/3.0

Seat 3: oujjaa ($125.30 in chips)
Seat 5: FatalErrorX ($23.55 in chips)
Seat 7: stakeman ($24.00 in chips)
Seat 8: Bombjack_x [ :6h4: :9h4: ] ($68.65 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
oujjaa posts blind ($0.25), FatalErrorX posts blind ($0.50).

PRE-FLOP
stakeman calls $0.50, Bombjack_x bets $2, oujjaa bets $4, FatalErrorX folds, stakeman folds, Bombjack_x calls $2.25.

FLOP [board cards :9c4: :4c4: :5h4: ]
oujjaa bets $6, Bombjack_x calls $6.

TURN [:10c4: ]
oujjaa checks, Bombjack_x bets $15, oujjaa calls $15.

RIVER [:qh4: ] Pot = $51.50
oujjaa checks, Bombjack_x bets $43.40 and is all-in
 
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Well, between the turn and river, it looks like you're representing the flush. But if you made a flush on the turn, would you really bet $15 into a $20 pot after opponent has shown a great deal of weakness by checking the scary board? I could be wrong, but I submit that you would bet less 95% of the time. It just kinda looks like you want him out or have only the Ac. Most players against this kind of competition make a smaller bet with the flush here just about every time, so it is possible this could make villain not believe you. Fundamentally, I actually kinda like this play, but I probably bet like between $8 to $12 maximum on the turn if I'm attempting it.
 
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I think Combu is spot on here. IMO if you're selling the flush then the turn bet should be a bit smaller and I'd value bet the river, not move all-in. If you make it look like you really want a call I think he'll fold more often than to an all-in.
 
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You're hoping he'll fold an overpair, I presume? I'm not sure how likely he is to actually have an overpair though, given that he checked the turn. Many times, you've gotta be up against AcKx or AxKc and you've risked your stack against a hand that you already beat. He might fold AQ or KQ here, but that depends a hell of a lot on your image so far. And if raising 96s is somewhat common for you, no way he's folding ;)
 
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this is very bad.

Firstly, I would have checked the turn. He either has an overpair, in which case putting more money in is obv bad, or he has overcards (drawing v thin) or overcards with a club, in which case he will probably C/R AI on the turn looking at how aggresive he is (or at least he will a good % of the time, and you don't wand to be folding the bnest hand too often).

As played, river is a VERY easy check. No1 believes people have flushes in reraised pots, so the only hands you are folding out are JJ (the only hand you fold out that you are behind) and AcKx type hands (which you are ahead of anyway). I bet he calls here with AcQx and above. The shove *might* be +EV, but it is in no way the MOST +EV play
 
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Here are my thoughts:
Pre-flop: One limper, I'm on the button. This is basically a blind steal, but 4-handed you have to raise with suited connectors in position because
a) they're good no-limit hands
b) you're not going to get pairs and big Aces often enough
c) you need to disguise your raises with premium hands.
There's a limper, which indicates a weak player with a weak hand, so I'm not too worried about him, and I have position whatever happens.
The small blind re-raises, and there's a case to be made for giving up the hand here. However, it's a minimum re-raise, and the pot gives me the odds to see a flop, with some extra information.

Flop: Folding top pair here is weak, so I call, waiting to re-evaluate based on his actions on the turn. An overpair is definitely a possibility based on his actions pre-flop, but if behind I'm still 20% to outdraw him.

Turn: I was a bit surprised when checked to here by an aggressive player, which led me to think he had just overcards. I bet 3/4 pot thinking I had the best hand, and not wanting to be outdrawn by a flush draw or overcards.
However I think a smaller bet would have been more appropriate for these reasons:
a) If he just has overcards and his flop bet was just continuation, he'll probably fold to a 1/3 - 1/2 pot bet anyway
b) I don't want to be playing a big pot with just a pair of Nines. Playing loose-aggressive in short-handed cash games is correct strategy, but it's mainly for picking up a lot of small pots, and I only want to play big pots with a big hand
c) With such a large bet, I limit my bluffing equity on the river. I have less than the size of the pot left, he gets good odds as played to call the bluff on the river
d) By making a small bet here, I can avoid facing a large bet by him on the river which may or may not be a bluff, and I have the option to check it down for free

I don't think this bet is too big however if I'm repping the flush, because
a) as pointed out, people rarely believe you, so you can bet big, and
b) a non-nut flush doesn't want to be outdrawn cheaply

River: When he calls the turn bet, I can be sure he has either an overpair or AcX. In the case of AcX, I should check and hope I have the best hand. If he has an overpair AA, KK or JJ, I need to evaluate whether I can get him to fold by pushing. There are a lot of hands he has to fear: a flush, a set, or maybe T9 or Q9 for 2 pair. KJ for the straight doesn't really fit the betting patterns.
I think the main problem here is that I don't have a specific read on this player to say that he's capable or likely to fold an overpair.

So ideally, I think I'd make a smaller bet on the turn and check down the river, without a specific read.

My stats for the session are 26/19/3.5

...... and for the results-oriented, he called with AA (no club).
 
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