Review this 3/6 limit hand

thoughts and opinoins please..

Paradise Poker 3/6 Hold'em

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Jh, Jd.
UTG calls, Hero raises, 3 folds, MP3 calls, CO calls, 2 folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (10.33 SB) 4d, Js, 7c (5 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, MP3 checks, CO checks.

Turn: (5.16 BB) 4c (5 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, MP3 checks, CO checks.

River: (5.16 BB) Ac (5 players)
BB bets, UTG folds, Hero raises, MP3 folds, CO calls, BB 3-bets, Hero caps, CO calls, BB calls.

Final Pot: 17.16 BB

With a big multi-way pot, checkin the flop to slowplay top set is fine, but a bet isn't terrible.

Checking the turn is fine here as you have made a full house, and now you aren't worried about the flush draw on board now. I hope someone bets though.

River is standard.

A big multi-way pot is precisely when you shouldn't slowplay. What hand is going to bet this pot for you? Second pair? Third pair? Someone trying to bluff out 4 other people with nothing?

With 10SB already in, no draw is going to fold for one bet on the flop - including gutshots. You may as well get their money while you can. Betting on the flop and betting on the turn will make for a very different outcome. I'm guessing you were up against A4 or 77 in the BB, in which case I'm afraid you missed something like 4.5 extra big bets by checking the flop and the turn. Probably more, presuming that you would have gotten some more peelers.

No point in slamming the breaks on the river. You're holding the third nuts, and AA is not really an option for anyone to have (I don't see anyone in any position holding AA and not betting the flop OR the turn, even if they for some reason decided not to 3-bet preflop). Quads is an option, but an extremely rare one.

- Preflop fine

- Bet flop to build the pot, you're more likely to get callers while it's cheap.

- Bet turn to 'protect' against people drawing to flushes (I know it doesn't matter if they make a flush, but if you bet anyone with a flush draw is getting odds to call, so again it's about building the pot)

- River fine

Yeah, after the flop you have top set on a board that doesn't have many drawing possibilities, but as FP said there are four others in the pot with you. From the way the hand played out it looks like CO at least is a donkish calling station (I'm guessing Ace-rag?), and you're missing out on bets from him. The river most likely made BBs hand (I'm guessing he made his flush), but if the river doesn't come out Ac, or any club, you're probably only going to get one more bet out of any of the other players on the river.

tookudown said:

thoughts and opinoins please..

Paradise Poker 3/6 Hold'em

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Jh, Jd.
UTG calls, Hero raises, 3 folds, MP3 calls, CO calls, 2 folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (10.33 SB) 4d, Js, 7c (5 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, MP3 checks, CO checks.

Turn: (5.16 BB) 4c (5 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, MP3 checks, CO checks.

River: (5.16 BB) Ac (5 players)
BB bets, UTG folds, Hero raises, MP3 folds, CO calls, BB 3-bets, Hero caps, CO calls, BB calls.

Final Pot: 17.16 BB

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First off, raising with Pocket Jacks preflop is a good move although it doesn't tell me how much you raised. You should have made a bet when you hit your set. Granted, there are no flush possiblities. There is a straight possibility. The Big Blind could have called you raise with 5, 6 suited. Things looked better when you got a full house on the turn. Checking on the turn is understandable. Maybe a minimum bet would have got them to call. An Ace on the river was a good car for you because at least one player probably has one so some will call your large bet. This may be nitpicking but you asked for our thouhgts and opinions so take this for what its worth. Great rake!

3/6 holdem = limit.

t1riel seems to do this in every limit hand topic, I'd have thought he'd have learned by now.

i definatley think you left some money in their stacks that should have been yours. As these people have already stated, the correct play was to bet on the flop. Any draw will call you - they have the odds to. When the 4 came, that gave you the second nuts (44 would be the best hand). IMO a good check, but even a bet would be okay (seeing how you played preflop after a check with the 44 on the board, i would have probably put you on AJ when you bet on the flop, and a check on the turn shows me that you are worried about a 4 in someones hand....but thats just me) with the A coming up, someone undoubtedly made their hand, so a raise here when the BB bet was the correct move. Only 2 hands win, AA and 44. No one showed they had AA when the Flop adn turn were both checked around and my guess is that quads on the turn would have bet.

All in all, i think you left between 12 - 36$ on the table.

Dorkus Malorkus said:

t1riel seems to do this in every limit hand topic, I'd have thought he'd have learned by now.

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I guess I should read more closely.

I like the check on the flop....
I would have bet the turn though.