Queens @ AP .50/1$

Richard7787

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Ok got Queens on the button at this table two new guys sat down a few hands ago and havent played yet so no reads on these guys, id been playing Tight played 3 or 4 hands since i sat down, Aces Kings Jacks, So i raise on the button and these two guys call.

Stage #700281164: Holdem No Limit $1 - 2007-07-06 03:54:22.015 (ET) [ 2007-07-06 03:54:22 ]
Table: New York St (real money) Seat #5 is the dealer
Seat 5 - RICHARD7787 ($47.20 in chips)
Seat 6 - GRAVEN29 ($48.60 in chips)
Seat 1 - ISAN ($39 in chips)
Seat 2 - MEDEVIL ($193.50 in chips)
Seat 3 - JEFFQR22 ($32.40 in chips)
Seat 4 - TRANCEPORTER ($98.40 in chips)
GRAVEN29 - Posts small blind $0.50
ISAN - Posts big blind $1

Dealt to RICHARD7787 [Qd Qc]
MEDEVIL - Folds
TRANCEPORTER - Folds
JEFFQR22 - Calls $1
RICHARD7787 - Raises $4 to $4
GRAVEN29 - Folds
ISAN - Calls $3
JEFFQR22 - Calls $3

*** FLOP *** [4d 8d 4h]
ISAN - Checks
JEFFQR22 - Checks
RICHARD7787 - Bets $5 -----> Weak flop bet?
ISAN - Calls $5
JEFFQR22 - Calls $5

*** TURN *** [4d 8d 4h] 5♥

ISAN - Checks
JEFFQR22 - Checks
RICHARD7787 - Bets $15
ISAN - All-In(Raise) $30 to $30
JEFFQR22 - All-In $23.40
RICHARD7787..........

Plenty of draws out there, Im worried about pocket eights too, make the call? Thought long and hard here about what to do, Ill post what I did after a few replies :)
 
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Emperor IX

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Ok got Queens on the button at this table two new guys sat down a few hands ago and havent played yet so no reads on these guys, id been playing Tight played 3 or 4 hands since i sat down, Aces Kings Jacks, So i raise on the button and these two guys call.

Dealt to RICHARD7787 [Qd Qc]
MEDEVIL - Folds
TRANCEPORTER - Folds
JEFFQR22 - Calls $1
RICHARD7787 - Raises $4 to $4 (Good raise here, nothing wrong with that)
GRAVEN29 - Folds
ISAN - Calls $3 (Only in BB, so that widens range teeny bit)
JEFFQR22 - Calls $3 (EP, may have a top ten hand, but let's assume not, without a raise)

*** FLOP *** [4d 8d 4h]
ISAN - Checks
JEFFQR22 - Checks
RICHARD7787 - Bets $5 -----> Weak flop bet? (A little weak, I would've bet more like $8 or $10. With this bet you're allowing the diamond draw to continue)
ISAN - Calls $5
JEFFQR22 - Calls $5

*** TURN *** [4d 8d 4h] 5♥ (Not exactly a scarecard, I don't think pocket fives are in your way)
ISAN - Checks
JEFFQR22 - Checks
RICHARD7787 - Bets $15 (If you're going to bet here you might as well have pushed, because of the pot size)
ISAN - All-In(Raise) $30 to $30
JEFFQR22 - All-In $23.40
RICHARD7787..........

Plenty of draws out there, Im worried about pocket eights too, make the call? Thought long and hard here about what to do, Ill post what I did after a few replies :)

Ok, comments posted throughout, and now here's for your decision.

How much do you have left? If you have the $15 to call and some to spare, I'd make it. It's not likely you're up against a four, probably a lower PP. If you lose to pocket 8's or fives, that's just a mistake from them that they didn't have to pay for. Really all you have to worry about here is Aces or Kings.

I try not to get involved in pots this big at a new table, it's just too hard to proceed without SOME kind of idea of what they hold.

the BB could hold anything 66+ I think, because it was cheap for him to come in, he won't put either of you on an 8 or 4, and the 5 isn't scary for him either.

The EP I think has a middle/high pocket pair, but the chances of his high pocket pair being aces or kings isn't that great, so I call.
 
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You were probably facing Jacks, Aces, Kings, or Ace and a Face. You could be up against pocket fours or if you had a lunatic at the table, A 4 or 4 5 suited. A lot of possibilities. Did you win the hand or did you take a beat?
 
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I agree with the points made by emperor and made the call, I had put at least one of the on the Diamond draw but didnt expect both of them to be on it. Thanks for the input.

RICHARD7787 - Calls $15
*** RIVER *** [4d 8d 4h 5h] 2♥
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ISAN - Shows [5d Jd] (Two Pair, fives and fours)
JEFFQR22 - Shows [3d 2d] (Two Pair, fours and twos)
RICHARD7787 - Shows [Qd Qc] (Two Pair, queens and fours)
RICHARD7787 Collects $12.85 from side pot-1
RICHARD7787 Collects $94.55 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($110.90:$97.70,$13.20) | Rake ($3:$2.65,$0.35) | Jackpot Rake ($0.50)
Board [4d 8d 4h 5h 2h]
Seat 1: ISAN (big blind) HI:lost with Two Pair, fives and fours [5d Jd - B:5h,P:5d,B:4h,B:4d,P:Jd]
Seat 2: MEDEVIL Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 3: JEFFQR22 HI:lost with Two Pair, fours and twos [3d 2d - B:4h,B:4d,B:2h,P:2d,B:8d]
Seat 4: TRANCEPORTER Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 5: RICHARD7787 (dealer) won Total ($107.40) HI:($107.40) with Two Pair, queens and fours [Qd Qc - P:Qd,P:Qc,B:4h,B:4d,B:8d]
Seat 6: GRAVEN29 (small blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
 
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Wow... Those guys played that hand terribly and you pulled down a nice pot! Neither of these guys should have even seen the flop. Congrats!
 
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I agree with the points made by emperor
:D:D:D

ISAN - Shows [5d Jd] (Two Pair, fives and fours)
JEFFQR22 - Shows [3d 2d] (Two Pair, fours and twos)

Wow, I gave them way too much credit. Good call!
 
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Just goes to show that there are fish at all levels.
 
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