QQ on paired board gets 4bet on flop.

[Munchrs]

Villian is 35/20/2 over 45 hands, I have been running at 16/9/1.8 on this table.

What type of range do we assign villian here?
whats your play and line for later streets?

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HAND #1
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poker stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker
BB: $29.85 (119.4 bb)
UTG+1: $24 (96 bb)
MP1: $15.60 (62.4 bb)
MP2: $25 (100 bb)
MP3: $11.25 (45 bb)
CO: $16.55 (66.2 bb)
Hero (BTN): $44.70 (178.8 bb)
SB: $4.75 (19 bb)
Pre-Flop: Hero is BTN with Q:diamond: Q:heart:
UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls $0.25, 3 folds, Hero raises to $1.25, SB folds, BB calls $1, MP1 calls $1
Flop: ($3.85) 5:heart: 5:diamond: 9:heart: (3 players)
BB bets $1.50, MP1 folds, Hero raises to $4.50, BB raises to $13.50, Hero ...

 

[bw07507]

I think I just shove this in here, but its marginal. Villains range includes 22-TT (Id expect at 35/20 to reraise JJ+ but I guess u could put slowplayed overpairs in his range). A5, K5 are probably also in his range. I dont think he plays 99 or 55 this fast so I dont have any problem getting it in here or calling and then shoving any turn. You will see a lower pocket pair enough times to make this a +EV play I believe.

 

[hoerb77]

I also think that He would not play 99 or 55 fast - because he can pretty sure to have the best hand

So he could have a middle pair
or he could have Ax hearts
or A9

both times you have to call


but it is also possible that he has K5 or J5 or something like that
and dont want to see other cards for the flush
for me that is the most probable hand

very difficult decision -I would tend to fold
i

 

[ChuckTs]

With the flush draw and his image I think it's a shove without fistpump.

 

[Tygran]

yeah shove it

if he has a random 5.... oh well. More often he shows up with a random 9, 2 hearts, possibly even some combination of 6/7/8 (for a gut shot..doubly true if they are hearts), other pp's are in his range as well (66/77/88/TT/JJ). I seriously doubt he'll have KK/AA.

 

[Munchrs]

hmm seems folding was the wrong option, thanks guys your explanations make sense.

 

[Richyl2008]

yeah shove it

if he has a random 5.... oh well. More often he shows up with a random 9, 2 hearts, possibly even some combination of 6/7/8 (for a gut shot..doubly true if they are hearts), other pp's are in his range as well (66/77/88/TT/JJ). I seriously doubt he'll have KK/AA.

I agree with this. AA, and KK are going to be reraising preflop most of the time. I think if he had pocket 9s, he would'nt be 4 betting on this flop because he would be shutting out draws that have little to no equity against him. Which would scare away his action. I do think a random 5 may be in his range, but I think there are a lot more hands in his range that you have beat that Tygran commented on.

 

[Munchrs]

heres a prettyy similar hand that happened today.

pokerstars GAME #18603032066: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/07/05 - 14:57:21 (ET)
Table 'Waterman' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Sentex ($22.15 in chips)
Seat 2: cLiX89 ($4.75 in chips)
Seat 3: zrainman ($29.15 in chips)
Seat 4: CaMaroH ($36.65 in chips)
Seat 5: Munchers94 ($27.45 in chips)
Seat 6: natisfinest ($25 in chips)
Seat 7: crunchie08 ($23.75 in chips)
Seat 8: magic26v ($24.90 in chips)
Seat 9: jmillerdls ($24.90 in chips)
cLiX89: posts small blind $0.10
zrainman: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Munchers94 [Qd Qs]
CaMaroH: calls $0.25
Munchers94: raises $1.25 to $1.50
natisfinest: folds
crunchie08: folds
magic26v: folds
jmillerdls: folds
Sentex: folds
cLiX89: folds
zrainman: calls $1.25
CaMaroH: folds
*** FLOP *** [9h 5c 5s]
zrainman: checks
Munchers94: bets $2.50
zrainman: raises $3.50 to $6
Munchers94: raises $19.95 to $25.95 and is all-in
zrainman: folds
Uncalled bet ($19.95) returned to Munchers94
Munchers94 collected $14.60 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $15.35 | Rake $0.75
Board [9h 5c 5s]
Seat 1: Sentex (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: cLiX89 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: zrainman (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: CaMaroH folded before Flop
Seat 5: Munchers94 collected ($14.60)
Seat 6: natisfinest folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: crunchie08 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: magic26v folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: jmillerdls folded before Flop (didn't bet)

 

[un-diluted]

heres a prettyy similar hand that happened today.

POKERSTARS GAME #18603032066: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/07/05 - 14:57:21 (ET)
Table 'Waterman' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Sentex ($22.15 in chips)
Seat 2: cLiX89 ($4.75 in chips)
Seat 3: zrainman ($29.15 in chips)
Seat 4: CaMaroH ($36.65 in chips)
Seat 5: Munchers94 ($27.45 in chips)
Seat 6: natisfinest ($25 in chips)
Seat 7: crunchie08 ($23.75 in chips)
Seat 8: magic26v ($24.90 in chips)
Seat 9: jmillerdls ($24.90 in chips)
cLiX89: posts small blind $0.10
zrainman: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Munchers94 [Qd Qs]
CaMaroH: calls $0.25
Munchers94: raises $1.25 to $1.50
natisfinest: folds
crunchie08: folds
magic26v: folds
jmillerdls: folds
Sentex: folds
cLiX89: folds
zrainman: calls $1.25
CaMaroH: folds
*** FLOP *** [9h 5c 5s]
zrainman: checks
Munchers94: bets $2.50
zrainman: raises $3.50 to $6
Munchers94: raises $19.95 to $25.95 and is all-in
zrainman: folds
Uncalled bet ($19.95) returned to Munchers94
Munchers94 collected $14.60 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $15.35 | Rake $0.75
Board [9h 5c 5s]
Seat 1: Sentex (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: cLiX89 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: zrainman (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: CaMaroH folded before Flop
Seat 5: Munchers94 collected ($14.60)
Seat 6: natisfinest folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: crunchie08 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: magic26v folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: jmillerdls folded before Flop (didn't bet)

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