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Osmann

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I would like some thoughts on this hand I played. What I'm not sure if I played correct is the flop.
mmaros is tight aggresive, but still a loosing player. Chrissy14 is semi loose/very aggresive, but a VERY solid player. And taltal very loose/passive.

Game #1912755194: Omaha H/L PL ($0.15/$0.25) - 2006/04/04 - 17:16:48 (ET)
Table "Procyon" Seat 6 is the button.
Seat 1: mmaros ($16.23 in chips)
Seat 2: Pocket72o ($15.60 in chips)
Seat 4: Hero ($18.30 in chips)
Seat 5: JIMMI3321 ($13 in chips)
Seat 6: Chrissy14 ($67.57 in chips)
Seat 7: emilie11 ($27.72 in chips)
Seat 8: taltal ($3.07 in chips)
Seat 9: TotalRock ($17.03 in chips)
Seat 10: Blue-m ($12.25 in chips)
emilie11: posts small blind $0.15
taltal: posts big blind $0.25
JIMMI3321: posts big blind $0.25
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Hero K♠ 2♠ 3♣ K♥
TotalRock: folds
Blue-m: folds
mmaros: calls $0.25
Pocket72o: folds
Hero: calls $0.25
JIMMI3321: checks
Chrissy14: raises to $0.75
emilie11: folds
taltal: calls $0.50
mmaros: calls $0.50
Hero: calls $0.50
JIMMI3321: folds
----- FLOP ----- 4♥ J♠ 6♠
taltal: checks
mmaros: checks
Hero: bets $3
Chrissy14: calls $3
taltal: is all-in $2.32
mmaros: folds
----- TURN ----- [4h Js 6s]4♣
Hero: bets $4.75
Chrissy14: folds
Returned uncalled bets $4.75 to Ozzy2
----- RIVER ----- [4h Js 6s 4c][Td]

I know the size of the turn bet was bad, but are there any other comments?
 
Alon Ipser

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Normally you are one of the ones I look to you for help when I have an Omaha question. I personally would have bet the pot also on the flop. 8 outs for the K high flush. Any ace gives you nut low and if it the ace of spades you have the nut flush too. Maybe I figure this wrong because of the split pot but it still looks correct to me.
 
ChuckTs

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10-handed...this is kind of marginal both ways IMO
23 for low is only the 3rd best for Lo
and K-hi flush is only second best (the famous OH saying: when drawing, make SURE its to the NUTS)
other than that, you controlled the hand well and took it down...well done :)
 
Osmann

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ChuckTs said:
10-handed...this is kind of marginal both ways IMO
23 for low is only the 3rd best for Lo
and K-hi flush is only second best (the famous OH saying: when drawing, make SURE its to the NUTS)
other than that, you controlled the hand well and took it down...well done :)

This is exactly one of the problems I had. I'm betting into a 4-way pot, with no made hand and draws to only 2nd best hands. And I'm probably going to have to lay it down if chrissy raises behind me. But it was a fairly tight game, so I couldn't sit around waiting for the nuts and then win a huge pot.

At showdown Taltal showed he was on a low draw only, and he didn't hit, so big pot for me :)
 
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It's a risky play... my thinking would have probably been that there was a fair chance of A2 or A3 to have called the pre-flop raise, so 23 was only likely to look good if an Ace hit. Initially I was thinking that the turn bet was very dangerous, since the board pairing weakened a flush draw, then I realised that your Kings made that a much better play since the play on the flop tended to suggest that Kings and 4's may be the best hand at that point despite the danger signs, and you had a draw to a better hand as well (a straight or a flush)...
Congrats on taking down the hand, though - I suspect I'd have ended up laying the hand down instead more often than not.
 
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