How to Proceed with the Nuts? (Omaha Hi/Lo No Limit ($0.10/$0.25))

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pokerstars Game #23272208924: Omaha Hi/Lo No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/12/26 13:59:49 ET
Table 'Saldanha IV' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: vualuck ($23.10 in chips)
Seat 2: terps1945 ($24.95 in chips)
Seat 3: Scheffi3 ($10.20 in chips)
Seat 4: heinzili ($18.75 in chips)
Seat 5: Steinitz ($6 in chips)
Seat 6: Jeder lacht ($28.25 in chips)
Seat 7: PROF SURF ($24.05 in chips)
Seat 8: jameslion ($8.35 in chips)
Seat 9: MEDTEK303 ($7.45 in chips)
jameslion: posts small blind $0.10
MEDTEK303: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Jeder lacht [Qh Jh 6s Kh]
vualuck: calls $0.25
terps1945: folds
Scheffi3: folds
heinzili: calls $0.25
Steinitz: folds
Jeder lacht: raises $0.75 to $1
PROF SURF: folds
jameslion: folds
MEDTEK303: folds
vualuck: calls $0.75
heinzili: calls $0.75
*** FLOP *** [Ad 4s Tc]
vualuck: checks
heinzili: checks
Jeder lacht: bets $1
vualuck: folds
heinzili: calls $1
*** TURN *** [Ad 4s Tc] [Qd]
heinzili: checks
Jeder lacht: bets $1
heinzili: calls $1
*** RIVER *** [Ad 4s Tc Qd] [5s]

I have the nuts. What should I do now? I have my own ideas, but they could be subconsciously based off the results, so I will let you guys go at it. I probably did stuff wrong before then too, so feel free to let me know.

On the flop, I have a 20% chance to hit the nuts on the turn (9 out of 45). On the turn I have the current nuts. I have a 59% chance to keep the nuts after the river (26 cards do not hurt me, 26/44). Are these odds right? Are these the odds I should be thinking about?

Based off of these odds, I think the flop bet was not +EV because I'm getting 1:3 pot odds on a 20% chance. Was the turn bet +EV? I have the nuts right now, but a low hand could come out and I'm not getting it, that would give me a 1:1 return if he has it. Plus my hand could be beat on the river, giving me 0 return. There's a 39% chance for a low hand to come out that I get to keep the nuts (17/44), and a 41% chance that I lose the nuts. What should I be thinking when I realize that?

Now that I've thought this through, should I have just checked through the entire hand?

I greatly appreciate your help, guys and ladies!
 
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PokerStars Game #23272208924: Omaha Hi/Lo No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/12/26 13:59:49 ET
Table 'Saldanha IV' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: vualuck ($23.10 in chips)
Seat 2: terps1945 ($24.95 in chips)
Seat 3: Scheffi3 ($10.20 in chips)
Seat 4: heinzili ($18.75 in chips)
Seat 5: Steinitz ($6 in chips)
Seat 6: Jeder lacht ($28.25 in chips)
Seat 7: PROF SURF ($24.05 in chips)
Seat 8: jameslion ($8.35 in chips)
Seat 9: MEDTEK303 ($7.45 in chips)
jameslion: posts small blind $0.10
MEDTEK303: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Jeder lacht [Qh Jh 6s Kh]
vualuck: calls $0.25
terps1945: folds
Scheffi3: folds
heinzili: calls $0.25
Steinitz: folds
Jeder lacht: raises $0.75 to $1
PROF SURF: folds
jameslion: folds
MEDTEK303: folds
vualuck: calls $0.75
heinzili: calls $0.75
*** FLOP *** [Ad 4s Tc]
vualuck: checks
heinzili: checks
Jeder lacht: bets $1
vualuck: folds
heinzili: calls $1
*** TURN *** [Ad 4s Tc] Q♦
heinzili: checks
Jeder lacht: bets $1
heinzili: calls $1
*** RIVER *** [Ad 4s Tc Qd] 5♠

I have the nuts. What should I do now? I have my own ideas, but they could be subconsciously based off the results, so I will let you guys go at it. I probably did stuff wrong before then too, so feel free to let me know.

On the flop, I have a 20% chance to hit the nuts on the turn (9 out of 45). On the turn I have the current nuts. I have a 59% chance to keep the nuts after the river (26 cards do not hurt me, 26/44). Are these odds right? Are these the odds I should be thinking about?

Based off of these odds, I think the flop bet was not +EV because I'm getting 1:3 pot odds on a 20% chance. Was the turn bet +EV? I have the nuts right now, but a low hand could come out and I'm not getting it, that would give me a 1:1 return if he has it. Plus my hand could be beat on the river, giving me 0 return. There's a 39% chance for a low hand to come out that I get to keep the nuts (17/44), and a 41% chance that I lose the nuts. What should I be thinking when I realize that?

Now that I've thought this through, should I have just checked through the entire hand?

I greatly appreciate your help, guys and ladies!

you have the nuts...why are you asking what to do..your either scooping or splitting (i go with the later), why not max bet??

you raised preflop..(SHOULDNT HAVE)

you bet the flop.. (shouldnt have, but if u do..too much)

and u min bet the nuts on turn (bet more to make low draws play)

you gotta push the river and hope for reraise..if so u are splitting...:rolleyes:
 
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Garbage hand pre so fold. Pot the turn & river with the nuts. Not the greatest flop to c-bet either.
 
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Pot the turn & river with the nuts.

Exactly

Also, you should consider playing regular PLO hi if you want to play those hands
 
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ok. i dont know why you raise preflop,with that hand you can do max. a call(no chance to low,no pair).after you hit nuts on turn i think you should bet more,and on river too.
 
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