Omaha 2 pair

Alon Ipser

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Preflop; Should I even play 2 pair and if the answer is depends on which 2 pair, what would they normally be?

Postflop; With the pair of 4s on the board I figure if I hit a J or 5 I would have the best full house if someone else has a 4 and pairs up one of their hole cards. I figure NoPanties has a 4. I am also not really looking at the flush draw because I think there is a good chance of a fullhouse on this hand.

Turn; $8 checkraise I'm out
 

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ChuckTs

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well generally you play them like you would play small PPs in holdem
except a little more aggressively - maybe mix it up PF with a raise
basically you play them to hit your sets unless youve got a suited ace in there, in which case you have added options
Lyle Berman, in Supersystem2, suggests even throwing in a little raise pf with almost any 2pr starting hand because of the potential for hitting your set

in this hand its an automatic fold on the flop unless you're getting pot/implied odds (which is rare) to call for a FH (4 outs), plus it isn't rare for someone to have TT or 77 (less probable) in this position
 
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Really Chuck? I'd sling this hand pre-flop in a nano-second.
 
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Preflop:
I agree with Rowhub on this one, this hand is not worth playing preflop from your position. In late position when the pot is unraised and without to many opponents, it may be worth coming in with a raise to take control of the pot. But early position it should be a muck. Ofcourse the jacks are fairly strong, but you shouldn't play every hand that has pocket jacks in it. The pair of 5's is weak and even if you do hit a set of 5's on the flop you will have to fold if an opponent shows he has a big interest in the flop. It is a lot like top pair with weak kicker in texas hold'em..

Postflop:
You missed the flop but if your read is correct and nopanties will pay you of if you hit your boat you definatley have correct implied odds to call his low bet. Folding on the turn was also the only correct thing to do.

What 2 pair should you play:
It really depends on position, how aggresive the table is, and how good your oppoenents are. But as a general rule I think you should play almost any 2 pair with kings or aces in it, queens with atleast 7's in it and Jacks with 9's in it. hands where 10's are the highest pairs are generally not worth playing. In late position and if suited or double suited you can cut back a litle on the reuirements. Even though a suited jack or queen isn't something you want to chase a flush with it may give you redraws along with the set you floppped.
 
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It depends on the pairs. If they're way apart, then that's not good, and ideally you want to be double-suited as well... AAKK double-suited is one of, if not THE, best hand(s) in Omaha, while 2277 rainbow is a pretty certain fold.
Before the flop, look at it as a 4 card hand. If you get 2 fairly high pairs (say, Tens or above), and are single- or double-suited, then that will normally be a pretty playable hand. A pair of aces with any other pair is probably worth a look, especially if you've got suited cards.
Lower pairs will have weaker flush possibilities, very limited straight potential, and will rarely make a nut full house - so you can't be that confident of your hand unless you somehow hit quads (which is very unlikely). As a result, don't immediately discard 2 pairs, but consider what flush potential they have, whether they're connecting or near-connecting, and so on.
 
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oh i didn't consider his UTG position...but late position me personally i'd limp with em
i'm not as ballsy as Mr Berman but they're def. worth a flop i'd say
 
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robwhufc said:
Really Chuck? I'd sling this hand pre-flop in a nano-second.

I have to agree with rob here this is fold pre-flop with this hand, and being that you saw the flop and nothing hit, Fold. I don't know but if I am dealt 2 pair I am hoping that those two kinda compliment each other like AAKK QQJJ and so forth, JJ44 don't really work well together, fold.
 
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Play it preflop. Trips are still pretty good in Omaha, and your even up for a full house with the str8 and flush draws after the flop. Didn't happen for ya though. In fact those 4's on the board should scare the bejesus out of you. Dump it.
 
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sorry thats one thing i forgot is that they should generally be connected to play em
lol dont listen to me i play 0.05/0.10 and am a losing player :)
but you can't ignore SS2...(let's just see if i can quote the info properly next time) ;)
 
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