NL2 FR: JJ open-raise from UTG, gets 3-bet by a 14%3B, calls, and it goes xc/xc/xc

Full Tilt - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 118 BB (VPIP: 40.44, PFR: 28.68, 3Bet Preflop: 13.51, hands: 136)
BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 13.79, PFR: 9.85, 3Bet Preflop: 1.25, Hands: 204)
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 12.00, PFR: 5.14, 3Bet Preflop: 1.49, Hands: 177)
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 85.5 BB (VPIP: 6.90, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 87)
Hero (UTG+1): 264 BB
MP: 79 BB (VPIP: 34.83, PFR: 14.77, 3Bet Preflop: 13.33, Hands: 89)
MP+1: 91 BB (VPIP: 17.39, PFR: 13.04, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 23)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J♦ J♠

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, CO raises to 8 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 5 BB

Flop: (17.5 BB, 2 players) T♣ 9♣ 5♦
Hero checks, CO bets 7 BB, Hero calls 7 BB

Turn: (31.5 BB, 2 players) 4♣
Hero checks, CO bets 16 BB, Hero calls 16 BB

River: (63.5 BB, 2 players) 4♦
Hero checks, CO bets 48 BB, Hero calls 48 BB

CO shows 9♠ 4♠ (Full House, Fours full of Nines)
(Pre 16%, Flop 18%, Turn 82%)
Hero mucks J♦ J♠ (Two Pair, Jacks and Fours)
(Pre 84%, Flop 82%, Turn 18%)
CO wins 152 BB



I don't know if i should've raised him on the flop?

All i know about the guy is that he was playing lots of flops and later streets...

I'd 4-bet for value pre. The guy has "I'm a donkey and never folding stats". When these kinds of player bet weak on the flop, they are usually weak. So yes, I'd be raising the flop. As played, I think you're committed to calling down against this guy. Based on his stats, he could show up with a ton of worse hands and bluffs.

Don't post results either. You'll get better advice.

Yeah, I'd repop for value pre. A 13.5% 3 - bet is something like 44+, ATo+, KJ+ (altho he may build his distribution quite differently). Regardless JJs are whooping a 13.5% range.

13.5% looks something like this: 77+, A8s+, K9s+, QTs+, JTs, ATo+, KJo+, QJo

Id probably 4-bet this, just because hes 3betting so wide.. If you flat here youre completely unsure where you are against the guy, and youre out of position and he has the betting lead...

Flop, yeah I would normally check raise here.
Turn, as played, I would check raise here.
River, as played you have to check/call again, which sucks because he has a boat and you have no info on him..

I agree, don't post results. I would highly consider the 4Bet preflop as well versus this opponent or at least try to do something aggressive postflop as played. Don't play scared poker like this versus a maniac. You are giving up tons of value.

preflop call is fine.
I don't prefer 4bet JJ
because your stack is very deep 100BB
if 4bet to about 26-30BB, are you going to call 5bet all in?
or what's his potential call 4bet range? TT+, AQo+?

JJ VS this potential range is very underdog.

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the flop why just X-call?
flop you against 13% range JJ has large equity.
raise his bet for solid value here.

flop think donk leading out is better.
because your hand is good.
bet for instant value.
and ready to fire a 2nd barrel if get called.

I think calling down will usually be correct. As others have stated 4-betting is an option. I actually like a call better though. Just call all his loose bets all the way down. I'd probably 4-bet with QQ, but I'd just call with JJ.

Check calling all the way down is correct too most likely.

Make a note on future hands on whether there is a particular street where he gives up bluffing. Some players have super wide flop and turn betting ranges, but a tight river betting range.

If you choose to 4-bet JJ you should not fold to a 5-bet.

The guy is 3-betting 13% of his hands.... Unless he is a super sicko then he looks like hes an aggro fish. You could probably 4bet jam on him and he will call with A9s or something... Too high variance with 250BB though...

XR the flop as there are so many draws here

John A said:

I'd 4-bet for value pre. The guy has "I'm a donkey and never folding stats". When these kinds of player bet weak on the flop, they are usually weak. So yes, I'd be raising the flop. As played, I think you're committed to calling down against this guy. Based on his stats, he could show up with a ton of worse hands and bluffs.

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Agree with the above comment. His stats are a giveaway that he seldom has our hand beat so respond with a strong 4bet pre plus a strong continuation bet on the flop which should be enough to take down the pot more often but instantly fold if we get 5bet because then we narrow his range down to premium hands and so will not be a good idea to continue further with jacks.:icon_joke

TomLeach said:

The guy is 3-betting 13% of his hands.... Unless he is a super sicko then he looks like hes an aggro fish. You could probably 4bet jam on him and he will call with A9s or something... Too high variance with 250BB though...

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Villain has only 118BB. I will 4-bet/shove JJ against that guy any day. At FR a guy with 40/28 is a big agro fish. I do not think his 5-bet range is crushing us and I think he will call enough timeswith garbage to make this very profitable.