nl $100 JJ vs strange aggression

tenbob

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I have a semi TAG on the verge of LAG image at the moment after somewhat of a rush of cards.

Villian is 24/9.5 over 95 hands and is break even so far.

Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/12/01 - 18:41:48 (ET)
Table 'Vinata II' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Pro97 ($67.85 in chips)
Seat 2: Roelof22 ($120.80 in chips)
Seat 3: tenbob ($120.45 in chips)
Seat 4: Suited Junk ($118.65 in chips)
Seat 5: bjao ($324.50 in chips)
Seat 7: hadpoker ($19.20 in chips)
Seat 8: Tixmaster ($115.35 in chips)
Seat 9: buddyboy024 ($35.20 in chips)
Suited Junk: posts small blind $0.50
bjao: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tenbob [Jh Jc]
hadpoker: calls $1
Tixmaster: folds
buddyboy024: folds
Pro97: folds
Roelof22: folds
tenbob: raises $3 to $4
Suited Junk: raises $11 to $15
bjao: folds
hadpoker: folds
tenbob: calls $11
*** FLOP *** [6d 9h Ks]
Suited Junk: bets $18
tenbob: ????

Is a fold always standard here ?
 
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Ya, I think folding is pretty standard here. He's occasionally going to have TT or maybe AQ, but realistically I think we're behind here almost always. AA/KK/AK/QQ and 99 now have us crushed.

Without very good reads I toss it.
 
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Only $4 into this hand? Standard fold. He's been watching you for 95 hands, he knows you have a hand but he RR'd anyway. Given his stats I don't see the RR with less than TT or AK.Who needs the headache.
 
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drop it like it's hot
 
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I don't get why this is 'strange' aggression - not a lot about the hand seems particularly strange to me - villain 3-bets PF and c-bets what is a good flop for c-betting. AQ+/TT+ doesn't seem too unreasonable for villain's range, and we're way behind if so.

If villain has been liberally 3-betting preflop I might be tempted to peel, but without such a read it's a pretty routine fold.
 
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Pretty standard fold I think.
 
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It's unanimous. Which means you called and lost to K6s.
 
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At 24/9.5 we can't expect him to be the type of guy that defends his SB by 3-betting and then betting this flop. Altough this might be AQ or AJ getting frisky, peeling is bad IMHO due to pot size and his range crushing yours (we're ahead of TT and bluff wich is what, 10-15% of what he has here?).

So, standard fold and I'd even think about folding this preflop: his raising range is pretty tight altough he is loose for FR and we aren't getting good enough odds for a set-mine. I'd like to have stats on his blind defense if possible ? Did he denfend any ?

Also, love the UTG limp by the ultra short stack.
 
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standard c-bet
standard fold or if good read and feeling frisky, re-pop it
 
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Fairly ridiculous overbet PF on his part and I definately chuck it here (PF I mean), as not enough value on a set and no matter what comes out on the flop you're gonna have to call a big bet not knowing where you are eg this situation, probably beat (you're hammered against a range of AQ+,JJ+ even PF (I don't think given his stats he'd rr this much pf with TT or worse)) - even on a complete rag flop you're only 50/50 against the aforementioned range

chuck it like chuck
 
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Fairly ridiculous overbet PF on his part and I definately chuck it here (PF I mean), as not enough value on a set and no matter what comes out on the flop you're gonna have to call a big bet not knowing where you are eg this situation, probably beat (you're hammered against a range of AQ+,JJ+ even PF (I don't think given his stats he'd rr this much pf with TT or worse)) - even on a complete rag flop you're only 50/50 against the aforementioned range

chuck it like chuck

Nice HA Jake. I agree with everything but the PF fold part. This guy's stats show he's fairly conservative, but not rock tight. IMO, while the post flop fold is, in tenbobs words, standard, so is the PF call with JJ.
 
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I think pre-flop is fine.

I folded, the flop, all im beating now is a bluff.
 
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