Minimum hand to call this push?

AA?
QQ?
JJ?
K10?

pokerstars Game #10402084764: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/06/12 - 16:13:43 (ET)
Table 'Esperanto II' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: hott_estelle ($23.30 in chips)
Seat 2: VICHY99 ($26.85 in chips)
Seat 3: mischman ($47.80 in chips)
Seat 4: MrSticker66 ($30.20 in chips)
Seat 5: kar702 ($15 in chips)
Seat 6: quique1991 ($24.75 in chips)
Seat 7: Freakakanus ($18.40 in chips)
Seat 8: tenbob ($47.85 in chips)
Seat 9: Yuleeahn ($24.15 in chips)
mischman: posts small blind $0.10
MrSticker66: posts big blind $0.25
kar702: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mischman [Xd Xc]
kar702: checks
quique1991: folds
Freakakanus: folds
tenbob: folds
Yuleeahn: folds
hott_estelle: folds
VICHY99: folds
mischman: raises $0.75 to $1
MrSticker66: calls $0.75
kar702: calls $0.75
*** FLOP *** [4d Kd Kh]
mischman: bets $1
MrSticker66: raises $2.25 to $3.25
kar702: raises $10.75 to $14 and is all-in
mischman:

I think your up against AK, KQ, or KJ here most of the time. The other villain most likely has the nut flush draw.

QQ and JJ need runner runner to improve. (At least one villain has a K)

AA still needs to hit a two outer to fill up.

KT is likely way behind too.

I need AK or KQ to play this hand. One villain could be bluffing, but, both have shown incredible strength.

You gotta have a K to call versus 2 raises. You might be able to outplay 1, but not 2.

POKERSTARS GAME #10402084764: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/06/12 - 16:13:43 (ET)
Table 'Esperanto II' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: hott_estelle ($23.30 in chips)
Seat 2: VICHY99 ($26.85 in chips)
Seat 3: mischman ($47.80 in chips)
Seat 4: MrSticker66 ($30.20 in chips)
Seat 5: kar702 ($15 in chips)
Seat 6: quique1991 ($24.75 in chips)
Seat 7: Freakakanus ($18.40 in chips)
Seat 8: tenbob ($47.85 in chips)
Seat 9: Yuleeahn ($24.15 in chips)
mischman: posts small blind $0.10
MrSticker66: posts big blind $0.25
kar702: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mischman [Ad Ac]
kar702: checks
quique1991: folds
Freakakanus: folds
tenbob: folds
Yuleeahn: folds
hott_estelle: folds
VICHY99: folds
mischman: raises $0.75 to $1
MrSticker66: calls $0.75
kar702: calls $0.75
*** FLOP *** [4d Kd Kh]
mischman: bets $1
MrSticker66: raises $2.25 to $3.25
kar702: raises $10.75 to $14 and is all-in
mischman: folds
MrSticker66: folds
mischman said, "show"
kar702 collected $10 from pot
kar702: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $10.50 | Rake $0.50
Board [4d Kd Kh]
Seat 1: hott_estelle folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: VICHY99 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: mischman (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: MrSticker66 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: kar702 collected ($10)
Seat 6: quique1991 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Freakakanus folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: tenbob folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Yuleeahn folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Serious laydown dude......

dj11 said:

Serious laydown dude......

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I think it was the right one though.

Me too, and I have folded AA in a similar situation, but man does it grate......my situation was a str8 which proved correct.

yea, good laydown, very very very tough but you do have to know your beat. Ask yourself, what can I beat? all you can really beat is any PP lower than kings, a flush draw, and an idiot who thinks his pair of 4s is good lol. All of which I think were not what he was holding. People make it obvious what they have, and he obviously had trips.

mischman said:

I think it was the right one though.

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So do I. Who says this guy can't have 44? With so little invested, wait for a better situation I think.

Why is this a 'tough' laydown? One of them, perhaps both, has a K. Would you all consider folding QQ or JJ here to be 'tough' (bear in mind that there's little difference between AA and QQ-JJ on this flop - if you're ahead with AA you're invariably ahead with QQ-JJ and vice versa).

If we had KJ here, then it would be a marginal decision.

Good laydown - as above not a difficult one.

Dorkus Malorkus said:

Why is this a 'tough' laydown? One of them, perhaps both, has a K. Would you all consider folding QQ or JJ here to be 'tough' (bear in mind that there's little difference between AA and QQ-JJ on this flop - if you're ahead with AA you're invariably ahead with QQ-JJ and vice versa).

If we had KJ here, then it would be a marginal decision.

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Because its pocket aces, the 2 bullets, american airlines, the rockets, the big guns, 2 Aces.

As soon as i folded i opened up an MSN with Tenbob and asked if QQ was an easy fold there, he said obv i then asked AA and he said yes. With all the struggling ive been doing with ring, im proud i dumped aces postflop.

And yes, there is no differance between 33, QQ and AA there. I would fold 33 and QQ, and thats why i folded AA.

I think someone there has AK or 44. Definatly KQ.

mischman said:

*** FLOP *** [4d Kd Kh]
mischman: bets $1
MrSticker66: raises $2.25 to $3.25
kar702: raises $10.75 to $14 and is all-in
mischman: folds
MrSticker66: folds

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Wonder what he had