Loosing big bluff over ace high. What did i do wrong?

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DeidaraLP

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So i just 0.05/0.10 Zoom 6-Max Cash Game, yes i know.. small stakes im pretty new whaterver.

I was bluffing this dude and was pretty certain he didnt have anything big but he kept calling me. I had nothing but i was certain that i would scare him away, usually works. What could i done diffrently? Was the bet sizing to big and obvious? And was the other player just as retardo as me for calling that or was it solely on me?

Link to BoomPlayer: http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-hands/Boom/24007512_94D0C8BD33

pokerstars Zoom Hand #170842047788: Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05) - 2017/05/24 8:55:49 CET [2017/05/24 2:55:49 ET]
Table 'Donati' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: ruta477 ($4.64 in chips)
Seat 2: TazzaSg ($2.41 in chips)
Seat 3: AfroTheft ($5.05 in chips)
Seat 4: vml13 ($2.76 in chips)
Seat 5: PSergey ($7.67 in chips)
Seat 6: ErwinRommél ($3.80 in chips)
TazzaSg: posts small blind $0.02
AfroTheft: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ErwinRommél [Th 3h]
vml13: folds
PSergey: folds
ErwinRommél: raises $0.10 to $0.15
ruta477: raises $0.10 to $0.25
TazzaSg: folds
AfroTheft: folds
ErwinRommél: calls $0.10
*** FLOP *** [Qd 9s 4h]
ErwinRommél: checks
ruta477: checks
*** TURN *** [Qd 9s 4h] [Jc]
ErwinRommél: bets $0.21
ruta477: raises $0.21 to $0.42
ErwinRommél: raises $1.08 to $1.50
ruta477: calls $1.08
*** RIVER *** [Qd 9s 4h Jc] [9h]
ErwinRommél: bets $2.05 and is all-in
ruta477: calls $2.05
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ErwinRommél: shows [Th 3h] (a pair of Nines)
ruta477: shows [8c As] (a pair of Nines - Ace kicker)
ruta477 collected $7.35 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $7.67 | Rake $0.32
Board [Qd 9s 4h Jc 9h]
Seat 1: ruta477 (button) showed [8c As] and won ($7.35) with a pair of Nines
Seat 2: TazzaSg (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: AfroTheft (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: vml13 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: PSergey folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: ErwinRommél showed [Th 3h] and lost with a pair of Nines
 
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Welcome to the micro stakes! First of all, don't even play a hand like that. It's total rubbish. But okay, you decided to bluff and that's fine. However, you can't really bluff at these stakes with complete air if someone is already calling and raising against you. Most of the time they WILL call 'til the end in that situation no matter what.

To be honest with you, I think you both played this really bad. He just happened to be the luckier this time. Or maybe he knew that you have nothing and assumed that his A high is the best hand here. I mean, you thought he had nothing so maybe he thought the same about you and happened to be right, who knows.

Did you play with bad hands before that as well? You said that scaring "usually works" so maybe you did that too much and someone got fed up? Maybe they picked it up and used it against you. Many possibilities here. Good luck in the future, fold that T3 next time and you'll be fine ;)
 
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Folding T3 is indeed a no-brainer.
 
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Why did you go all in if you didn't have anything? It is not smart to do if all the cards are on the table and he keeps raising you. You can't raise and bluff if there are two nines and possibility for many combination. If you ask me, you did wrong because you kept playing after first re-raise. Anyway good luck
 
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Very entertaining hand, thx for sharing.
 
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I really don't think you should be playing 10 3 suited here either.

Most opponents aren't going to fold very often at this level.

As played I would call the min-raise on the turn and bet close to pot when I make a straight.

Definitely add a note that this player is playing aggressively pre-flop and on turns (with nothing). Also maybe something about over-valuing ace high on the river lol. Good to know for future reference.

Good luck to you!
 
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MMM yeaaaah....
Why raise this hand?
The bluff had to do so! Either you are with him for the first time - and he played you good reads... But this hand raises and nerasite of course...no words...
 
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* Opening 10-4s from the CO: That's pretty bad.
* Calling a 3-bet (even a small one) out of position with 10-4s: Yeah, that might be worse
* The turn is just suicidal, why you're 3-betting here with only a draw doesn't make sense.
* River doesn't make a lot of sense either, you changed your story.

The other guy played badly, and should have folded, but this hand was complete spew on your part.
 
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I agree with you Vinnie. Why try to make a hero play against a stubborn opponent. Just fold and get him next time when you have a real hand. He obviously didn't care enough to fold. there is no shame in letting the hand go when your bluff didn't work. Live to fight another day.
 
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On micro the chance of your bluff playing against you is great. In micro there are payers that go to the end with anything, be cautious with bluffs in these limits. Especially at zoom/speed tables where played hands are better than traditional tables. If you have nothing, neither outs, fold in any aggression
or stubbornness in call...
 
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It depends what you did at that table.If the other players saw that you bluff a lot,you will get a lot of calls.
 
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Excellent hand that you compare, if your bluff does not work to equal you rival or even see a resubida is better to lose that much of chips than to lose the possibility of continuing in the tournament
 
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Hello this hand is difficult but your bluff should have gone all in to see the flop so to press enough to your opponent and to desist from his hand, this is how I think it should have been for you to win. Good luck for the next one
 
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In case you didn't notice, this was zoom poker. No one had any info. I think this guy just raises whenever he thinks he can. With no info about other players, and no hand to make a semi bluff this was just incorrect. What he did wrong was raise at all. Wait for a good hand to do that.
 
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A crazy hand, may have history with you and called up to the end, do not understand how, or just because of the type of game from zoom, anyway ugly!
 
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In case you didn't notice, this was zoom poker. No one had any info. I think this guy just raises whenever he thinks he can. With no info about other players, and no hand to make a semi bluff this was just incorrect. What he did wrong was raise at all. Wait for a good hand to do that.

There are trackers and HUDs that work with zoom. There very well could be a history against this player.
 
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Well in this hand if you are opening with 10 3 that means that you are opening 100% of your hands and in that flop with A high i'm going to win if i call you around 70% of the time, also, the only hand that you could have that is not a slowplay is jacks so your range of value vs your range of bluffs is not balanced
 
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Not that I am a pro or anything, but your first mistake was letting him have the initiative. If you were going to play a hand like that I think you should have 4 bet him preflop, fold if they shoved or raised you back. If they just flat your re-raise a cbet on the flop probably would have taken it down. I would fire again on the turn if not, and evaluate the river, but I'm pretty sure villain would have folded by the turn bet......
 
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With pocket cards 10-3 at such limits - definitely fold, you do not even have to go limp into the game.
Need to bluff with those, who understand the game. At micro-limits try to bluff less, and do not continue to play after the flop with "air".
 
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Right game, good blef, but I think an opponent with money left over.
 
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If you bet air
You not gonna fair lol
 
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Not sure that I would admit playing a hand so badly..
 
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Very interesting indeed! I have been on both sides of the spectrum- Let me share my story...

Yesterday I was playing a Sit n go, and I got down to just 3 players left at the table... I set up a LAG/ Passive table image for myself, and my villian was becomming loose bluffing me off the pot if I checked the turn, and the river... I had a solid read on his range. I knew how he was playing, and how he thought I was weak. When he bet the river I called him down with Ace high knowing it was very likely I might loose, but I got lucky. I really just wanted to see his cards, was why I called.

It always goes both ways- I've shoved with air, and got him off the pot, and I've shoved with air and lost. The board is a big factor too. Look at how the cards make your opponet move. If a queen comes, and he checks to you, he might very likely be trying to conceal the fact that he's got a queen in his hand. If something you do in a game today works, it may not work against a different player on a different day. Take it in stride, and always have fun. Good luck, and don't sweat the small stuff.
 
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