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joosebuck

joosebuck

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No reads on the button, new player of maybe 5 hands total. Seems from the look to be a typical TA player. My table image: extremely tight-aggressive. Shown down top set twice, nut straight once. Have also shown one 7-2 stone bluff + cbet to win.

Second limper (utg limped before me) with KQd in late position, $1/2 NLHE, sitting about $300 deep. Button (about $200 infront of him) raises to $10 and I cold call along with utg.

Flop

Kh-4c-4s

utg and I check. button bets $15. utg folds. i raise to $45. he thinks for a minute and smooth calls.

Turn

8d

I bet out $55. Button flat calls again

River

Jc

I check and the big blind checks.

I show top pair. Any guesses what he has?
 
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Kennyseven

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what is a TA player.....Is that a tag player....if so what is a tag player....
 
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Absolutely no idea, $10 is a huge raise preflop for AA or AK, could well be TT, JJ, QQ.

KQ would be funny, anything else would be a bit insane. Wouldn't be surprised to see a pair of J's that caught the river.
 
zebranky

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I'm guessing KJ, KQ or some middle pair (8's?)
 
Bombjack

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I think he played it pretty well. What kind of hand did you think he had when he called your check-raise?

You need to slow down on the turn after that. A good player won't have called this without at least a big King. You've projected a lot of strength and he's obviously afraid of trip Fours in case you'd limped in with something like A4s or 45s, or slow-played AA pre-flop, although he should be more wary if the board were K-5-4 rather than K-4-4, because there's more of chance he's up against a set. If he's ahead, he knows you're probably drawing to 3 outs, so there's not much need for him to raise you out and alert you to his hand. He's got half his money in and is probably not too keen to go bust with top pair.
 
joosebuck

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well, the flop gave me enough information. thought it was possible before my raise that he was betting the flop with 10s/JJ/QQ. When he called my raise, I thought K10/KJ/KQ (button raise, remember). I thought betting out on the turn would let me know where I stood, and that I might possibly be able to take it down there vs. AK/KQ; but picking up no additional information I checked the river.

Over the next 2 hours it became painfully obvious that he was TA, but the special breed of TA that is TA-P
 
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