Live Game - How Would You Play This?

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You are dealt AK suited. You're playing a 25/50c cash game in mid position. UTG makes it $1.50, he's been making that raise with pretty much everything and you've got a great hand, so you make it $4. Folds around to the button and he raises to $9.50. UTG folds and now it's your action.

First question: fold, call, or raise, and if you raise how much?

This hand goes on, I just want to see some input before I reveal results
 
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Call me a nit, but without reads, this is AA, KK or very rarelyQQ way too often (could be JJ, but I really doubt it). What are the effective stacks ? If you have 200$ left, you might 4-bet fold, if you have only 10$ left, you might push and pray you hit your flush. With 75-100$, you might just fold since you'll be playing AK OOP against a very likely AA, KK and are giving away massive reverse implied odds because, at this point. The best you can hope for is a split (AK), WAY behind (AA, KK) or a flip (QQ).
 
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Sorry, both started just over $50. Forget which one had the other covered but it was like 2 bucks difference, the lesser stack was $50.50.
 
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I fold then. I have very little invested and altough BTN raising range might be loose, I can't really 4-bet fold and will have to play OOP. Flat calling here sucks since it will build a huge pot (20$) and a c-bet (12-13$) will have more than 1/2 my stack in the middle.
 
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ok, you ignore your head and go ahead and flat call here, flop comes K87 rainbow, what do you do next?
 
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Do we know anything about the villian here? Sounds like a home game for those stakes; this someone we play with a lot? Style? Tendencies? Does he repop from the button with premium hands or just big/decent hands? What does he normally raise like? That's a pretty crappy raise he put in, is that his standard (as in he doesn't know what he's doing) or is he trappy and trying to build the pot here?
 
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If you call the pre-flop raise you have to bet when the K hits the board. The real question is what you're going to do when/if he reraises.
 
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Do we know anything about the villian here? Sounds like a home game for those stakes; this someone we play with a lot? Style? Tendencies? Does he repop from the button with premium hands or just big/decent hands? What does he normally raise like? That's a pretty crappy raise he put in, is that his standard (as in he doesn't know what he's doing) or is he trappy and trying to build the pot here?

First off, neither of these hands were me, just an interesting hand. Second of all, I personally didn't know much about the villain, although I play at the game fairly frequently, it was this guy's first time playing at this particular game.

Next step, you bet $13, opponent min-raises to $26, do you take this all the way, or would anyone lay that down?
 
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Without reads, we cannot discuss this hand because
a) We don't have a range to put villain on (why minraise ?), we are only thinking about the strength of our hand wich is a mistake
b) There's really not much to discuss: once you call and hit plus donk into BTN, you have no choice but to stack off here and get showned AA or set. Folding after investing so much is a mistake, since this can be a badly played QQ, JJ, TT, 99, a draw, etc.

But there's no way I'm flat calling this pre and betting my K. I want to induce a bluff if my K is good and there's virtually (or pretty much) no free cards that I can give my opponent that can help him if he is behind (unless he turns a set, but the way this is played, we are going broke with this anyway me thinks). What repops us and isn't WA/WB on this flop assuming a standard loose-passive range ? Nothin.
 
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I'd lay it down (I would have folded pre-flop actually). Without any kind of read on my opponent I'll give him credit for AA or KK and say good bet. When he shows me his cards, and he likely will, I'll know what I need to get try to get my $$ back by the end of the night. And if he shows something like KQ suited or JJ, I'll plan to get it back with plenty of interest.
 
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