live 2\5 tricky spot AQ

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lukyl

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Playing against a newish reg, competent player i havnt yet played against personally so not really any info, this was our first clash.

I'm in BB with ~500
villain in CO with ~700

in dealt AQ off, 2 limp in, villain raises to 30, i call, both limpers call.
at this point I expect his range to be fairly high, along the lines of AK, AQ, 10s + .

Flop comes A, J, 8 rainbow.
i check, planning to call a cbet
both limp callers check
villain checks.
thinking maybe underpair to aces, playing passive.

turn J
I check unsure as to whether the second jack tripped up any of the limp callers, intending to call a reasonable size bet.

both limp callers also check
villain bets 75, i call, thinking hes just trying to steal after two rounds of checks.
both others fold.

river Q

i again check,, expecting him to check back or bet about 160 if continuing his attempt to buy the pot, in which i call.

villain bets 220.

thoughts?
 
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Seems strange for the initial raiser to check back the flop after no raise, unless he has a set or two pair and he is trying to induce a raise on the turn,
either that or hes scared of the ace has a pair like 10-10 or QQ assuming hes not playing overly loose

It's not the best board with trip jacks and a draw out their, full house out their and were looking in the spec range with two callers.

Because their are 4 in the pot and its not a great board with no info I would possibly bet out after the limpers check, at least get them out of the hand rather than give them a chance to improve if they have missed they prob give credit for a bet because its a risky board if they continue theirs the information we need and theirs alot of possibilities weve narrowed their range

if they do call and the second jack comes on the turn firing a second barrel Is a massive risk. And might just be enough to get you away from the wrong side of a big hand.

As for villain were beating10-10 AK KK A10 any of those could be in his range but then he could just as easilly have QQ JJ AJ ,

its either strong or weak
 
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Probably a much with no reads other than him being a competent 2/5 reg.

I don't love the size of the turn bet; he must know any ace which called his raise is probably calling at least one street here, so why fire out well over half the pot? Looks more like he caught gin and wants to juice the pot against a hand EXACTLY like yours.

Just my initial thoughts.
 
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I think you should 3bet preflop as you are OOP.
 
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Everything that Cotta said. But I'll just add that this smells like a straight value bet.....Unless you've seen him bluff in these spots, then I think you have to call. lol
 
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You should definitely call that river bet.

As for the opponent that you have little history with, you are giving him way too much credit for a hand. His range is probably much wider than TT+ and AQ+. If you really thought that was what his range was you'd be wise to fold AQo preflop.

Even if his line taken was with AA, JJ, or AJ that would only be 8 combos. If he played like this with AK then that would be 16 combos and you'd be able to call. You also have to factor in random bluffs that happen. I doubt his range is this tight to begin with. As far as you know, he could have A4s and is making a river bet as a freeroll bluff against another ace.
 
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I would also think that J10s would definitely be in his range and maybe even J9s. Plus QJ+ I would have to see something more from the player before I make that call. You did say he was a newish reg. so I would assume he knows what he is doing until he proves otherwise. V bets $220 into a $270 pot. That SCREAMS value bet. Like cotta said though he's either really strong or really weak.
 
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I would have been a better idea as tom said to 3bet pre flop - limp raising will look super strong. Calling off turn bet with 2 jacks on board when villain bets into 3 opponents is not a good idea here. To me you are playing very passively so avoid being in such tricky situations. That was one of the worst possible ways one could have played AQ to be honest. :eek:

Simply 3bet pre and bet the flop that way you are giving yourself a better chance to win the pot. :)
 
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Cheers for advice, from what i gathered, it was a call, but played to passively in the first place, which looking back on it is too true.

For those interested it was QJ that he had, and i did end up calling. largely due to envisioning way more losing combos than winning with the way i had read his play.
 
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