Live $100 NLHE

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Live $100 capped buy-in NLHE game w/ blinds of 1/2/2. Villian is TAG pre-flop only having shown down big pockets AA,KK, and QQ. He has played very straight forward; betting/raising when he has it and check/folding when he doesn't.

I'm dealt JJ UTG and raise to $8. Two callers, one in late position and the villian who is in the BB. We see the flop w/ a $27 pot.

Flop comes KT6 rainbow and villian quickly moves all-in for his remaining $28. The late position player folds out of turn.

My play???
 
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Looks like an easy fold to me. As tight as he has been playing when he called preflop he is telling you he has a premium hand.
 
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Well based on what you're reporting - it seems like a fold.
Were there any other factors that gave you second thought? for instance, the Villian is short stacked... did he recently get burned... I might flip here if I really thought he was tilting.
His play is a little goofy in any case. What would he lead off with here (and risk you folding a worse hand)? If he had a hand like KQ or better - he'd be better off check calling your cont bet - especially with a short stack. Maybe it was just time to go home and he tossed in his last chips on a ATs or something.
Like I said - it looks like a fold - but I could talk myself into a call if I saw the right signs.
 
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I thought insta-fold.

Then I thought, what am I behind? AA,KK,QQ,TT,66,KT,K6,and T6. I ruled out QQ+ because he didn't 3bet and T6 and K6 because he called my raise. So TT,66, and KT pose a serious threat.

Why would you donk/insta-shove those hands with that flop? My answer was, you wouldn't.

Thinking along those lines I called. I know the call is questionable but I wanted some feedback on my thought process. I thought getting 2-1 was enough.
 
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What about AK, KQ? KJs

Lol, KQ and KJ never crossed my mind. Maybe I'm getting senile...

I lumped AK in with the QQ+ area of my thinking. The pot is $21 when it gets to him pre-flop and he has $34. I figured he'd shove with those hands and maybe TT.
 
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Lol, KQ and KJ never crossed my mind. Maybe I'm getting senile...

I lumped AK in with the QQ+ area of my thinking. The pot is $21 when it gets to him pre-flop and he has $34. I figured he'd shove with those hands and maybe TT.

Some of the same logic applies to KQ KJ. ie. if the small stack is going to call you on those hands post flop... he might as well check call. The lead seems suspicious.
 
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have to fold it, especially if he is tight player. He must have something to call your preflop raise.
 
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In case anyone was curious, I called but never found out what the guy had.

Before I flipped up my cards I said something like, "Any kings got me crushed..." Villain says, "I don't have jack sh!t." and tosses his cards towards the muck. The turn was a deuce and second of a suit. He snatched up his hand and looked at it again. After a blank river he mucked and left.
 
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Results oriented imo. Sure you caught him in the rare bluff for how you portrayed him and the scenario. But if he plays exactly the way you said, then folding would have been correct here because he rarely does what happened here. So if you know he almost never does this and always shows down the goods, then your awareness of that means he should win the pot when he tries it because most times he wins with the goods anyway.
 
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Results oriented imo. Sure you caught him in the rare bluff for how you portrayed him and the scenario. But if he plays exactly the way you said, then folding would have been correct here because he rarely does what happened here. So if you know he almost never does this and always shows down the goods, then your awareness of that means he should win the pot when he tries it because most times he wins.

I'm not trying to be results oriented at all. I previously stated that the call was questionable and posted the hand to get feedback on my thought process.
 
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I'm not trying to be results oriented at all. I previously stated that the call was questionable and posted the hand to get feedback on my thought process.
Ok, just sounded like you were saying you called and were right, etc. My misunderstanding.
 
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Live $100 capped buy-in NLHE game w/ blinds of 1/2/2. Villian is TAG pre-flop only having shown down big pockets AA,KK, and QQ. He has played very straight forward; betting/raising when he has it and check/folding when he doesn't.

I'm dealt JJ UTG and raise to $8. Two callers, one in late position and the villian who is in the BB. We see the flop w/ a $27 pot.

Flop comes KT6 rainbow and villian quickly moves all-in for his remaining $28. The late position player folds out of turn.

My play???
Pair Jacks unner de gun?????? AAAAaaarrrgggg!!!! :icon_shak EVIL! EVIL! :evil: RUN AWAY!!! FOLD! FOLD!!! ANYTHING BUT Jacks!!! Aaaarrrrrrrgggg!!!!!!!:vroam:
 
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