KK vs lolwtf reraise 25nl

Guy is 24/14/2 over around 35 hands or so. The reraise just blind-sided me here and I dunno wtf to do... what are we most likely up against? Whats the move?



Stacks:
* MP2 with $26.45
* MP3 with $5.00
* CO with $6.25
* BTN with $28.75
* SB with $2.60
* BB with $14.25
* UTG with $15.15
* UTG+1 with $12.15
* MP1 with $7.65




Blinds: $0.00/$0.00
Site: full tilt poker
* * Dealt to UTG:K♦ K♣
* * Sklansky group 1
Preflop:
* * Hero raises to $0.75
* * Hero+1 calls [$0.75]
* * 7 players folded.
* * Total folds this street: 7
* * Potsize: $1.85
Flop:
* * 5♠ 9♠ 2♦
* * Hero bets [$1.25]
* * 7 players fold.
* * Hero+1 calls [$1.25]
* * Potsize: $4.35
Turn:
* * J♥
* * Hero bets [$2.50]
* * Hero+1 raises to $5
* * Hero ??????????


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Call and check the river. He might've hit a set, could be J9, but could maybe be something you beat like QQ or AJ too. Definitely not looking to bloat the pot here though. Try to get to showdown as cheap as possible.

P.S: #'s mean barely anything at 35 hands. Something, but not much.

No. We are re-raising. This looks a lot like TPTK. At worst a set of J's/9's (anything) else has to be too loose of a pre-flop call. I would have to figure that you crush his range though.

I would be willing to stack here

Given that you are playing with 50bb effective stacks, you always have to play for stacks once there is no A on the board. Which means shove the turn because, in addition to top pair, two pairs and sets, there are a number of aggressively played draws in his range that will pay you now but won't on the river.

Also, please

1. reload to $25. It makes little sense to play 60bb deep
2. raise to $1 when you decide to play UTG. In all likelihood you will be playing this hand out of position when called and you prefer to put money in the pot now that you are an overwhelming favorite rather than later.

So shoving here was the correct move?
Also should I jump my opening bet to 1$ intead of .75$?
I like to keep my opening bet the same no matter what except every now and then I limp low pocket pairs trying to see a cheap flop.

deadhxc said:

So shoving here was the correct move?
Also should I jump my opening bet to 1$ intead of .75$?
I like to keep my opening bet the same no matter what except every now and then I limp low pocket pairs trying to see a cheap flop.

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Shoving was correct.

It's good not to vary your opening bet according to your cards as that would give the other players a tell. But then 3bb is a little low. I'd rather make it at least pot sized, i.e. $0.85 here.

What you can do is vary your opening bet according to your position. That doesn't give any tell. I like to open slightly smaller on the BTN as i'll mostly be stealing from there. I open a little higher UTG as i'll mostly be opening strong hands there and will need to play them out of position.

so maybe 4xbb utg/utg+1 and 3xbb everywhere else?

That sound good?

deadhxc said:

I like to keep my opening bet the same no matter what except every now and then I limp low pocket pairs trying to see a cheap flop.

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Also, don't limp small pocket pairs.

BelgoSuisse said:

Also, don't limp small pocket pairs.

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raise em up just the same as other starting hands and dump em if I miss?

deadhxc said:

raise em up just the same as other starting hands and dump em if I miss?

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actually, depends on the table conditions.

At a very passive table, raise and cbet.

At a very aggressive table, fold in early position, call raises in late position.

The thing with pocket pairs is that you either want to be the aggressor and complement the value of your hand with fold equity, or you want to call with great implied odds. And unless villains are terrible (which is often the case at 25nl), you have much better implied odds when you call a raise from an UTG raiser than in a multi-way limped pot where no one will go crazy unless he has flopped a monster.

If you limp your pocket pairs with the intention of folding when you don't hit your set, a good player with position on you will raise a lot of your limps, win the most pots with a cbet, and won't give you action when you hit.

deadhxc said:

so maybe 4xbb utg/utg+1 and 3xbb everywhere else?

That sound good?

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yeah that sounds good but id make it 3.5xbb everywhere else. a 75c raise down here looks very weak and even on the most passive tables you'll get a ton of callers.

I'm really curious what range of hands villain is to make these plays then stack off with that we're ahead of. How do you play from here if both players are full stacked?

There's only 1 I could really see: QQ

After that it'd have to be: JT, JQ, JA

And that's kind of pushing it no? Top pair holdings, either weak or top kick?

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Originally Posted by deadhxc
so maybe 4xbb utg/utg+1 and 3xbb everywhere else?

That sound good?
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This is the opposite of the standard approach to varying bet size by position. Generally you would make a smaller raise in early position when you're going to have to play oop postflop, and with the least information about how your opponnents will act preflop.

You would raise the larger amount in later position where you get to play IN position postflop, and have already seen most of your opponent's make their preflop decision.

Building big pots to play oop isn't a great way to get +EV unless you're playing against weak/tights where acting first is an advantage.