K-10 suited preflop from MP

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I started this hand with a BR of $9.80 at the $.10/.25 NL table on FT.
I had been running kind of cold for about an hour, so I thought that I would take a stab at the pot preflop. There were 2 limpers ahead of me, and 2 super aggressive players behind me. All players had me covered by a good margin.
I raised the pot to $1.25. The 2 players behind me called, while the limpers in front of me folded.
Flop comes 4,10,10 rainbow.

I am trying to see if I played this hand correct post flop, so my question is how would you have played this hand.

I will give you information about future action shortly.
 
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Umm, fold preflop.

As played bet flop. You raised preflop, anything other than leading looks suspicious on that board. Bet, hope someone has a hand or thinks you're c-betting with air and tries to take it away from you.
 
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Maybe I'm just tired, but I don't see what cards he had.
 
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Meh horrible. Two things obv fold pre-flop, and unless your playing a deliberate short-stack strategy then always have close to a full buy in for the table.

As played, shove that flop sir. If your beated then its a cooler, you dont have enough chips to get tricky here.
 
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Why fold preflop...

Anyway, id elad out with a 1/3 pot bet and hope one of the aggressive players makes a move and raises.
 
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. There were 2 limpers ahead of me, and 2 super aggressive players behind me.

Why fold preflop...

Anyway, id elad out with a 1/3 pot bet and hope one of the aggressive players makes a move and raises.


Obvious to me, do you really want to be going against 2 super-aggressors with K-10 ?

Edit : 1/3rd of the pot ??? THIS IS NOT A HAND TO PLAY SLOW !!
 
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I think K10 is a decent hand in a ring game...Wouldnt sit and wait for aces for an hour. Anyway, thats just me.

But why isnt it a hand to play slow!

Why would you want to shove?


What cards are you afraid of?

If they have Ax, they need runner runner to beat you.

theres no flush and straight draws.

If they have pocket pair, they only have 2 outs.

Why shove?

Youve hit trips, you want to win some money with them!.....

If someone has a higher ten, then moneys going in anyway.
 
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I think K10 is a decent hand in a ring game...Wouldnt sit and wait for aces for an hour. Anyway, thats just me.

But why isnt it a hand to play slow!

Why would you want to shove?


What cards are you afraid of? try 10-4 suited, A-10 and 4-4

If they have Ax, they need runner runner to beat you.

theres no flush and straight draws.

If they have pocket pair, they only have 2 outs.

Why shove? "I have trips, your two pair is no good", make them pay to chase the boat which would seem to be the most likely draw

Youve hit trips, you want to win some money with them!.....

If someone has a higher ten, then moneys going in anyway.
super aggressors = LAG
 
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By what cards are you afraid of, i ment on turn.

Your shove affects them seeing the turn.

SO if they have 10-4 suited, or A-10, or 44, thats TOTALLY IRRELEVANT to you shoving.

Shoving in that case accomplishes nothing.

If you bet and they raise, youre gonna call. If you shove, theyre gonna call.

Moneys going in anyway.


WHat shoving does do, is chase away hands that are behind you.

Why would i want to announce i have trips????

If one of them has a pocket pair, he has 2 outs!!!!

Thats 8% to hit!!

I want them to call and stay in hand. I want them to raise.

I want A-rag to call too. And if last guy has AK or AQ, he may make a move and raise too.

We have a hand thats either beat right now, in which case nothing you could, but a hand thats only 8% to get beat!!!! We want to get the most we can.

Shoving accomplishes nothing.
 
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Since you decided to raise PF with KTs in that situation with 2 LAG to act after you (don't know why you would do that), after the flop you're best move is to bet about 1/2 pot size, hoping 1 of LAG will come over the top and you can trap him.

Also, no offense, it appears to me that you should leave this table since the 2 LAGs are on your left so you are OOP. To quote Phil Gordon, you want "LAG to your right and tight ass to your left". I'm sure you know that you shouldn't have raised here in this spot but you got impatient because of a cold run of cards (happens to me too) which means time to leave and maybe come back 5 minutes later changing seat.
 
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Thanks for the input.
Here is what happened after the flop.

I checked. Player behind me raised to $2 and was called by LP. I called.
Pot is now at $10.10.

Turn card came the fourth 10.

How would you play here?
 
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With the 4 10s, and the previous action, you called a raise earlier, you may as well bet 2-3 here and let someone else raise you.
 
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Well you only have what, 6$ left?

Id probably check, let them both put money in again.

2nd guy is likely to have a pp since he bet out on flop, so hes gotta like that 3rd ten.

3rd guy may have overcards or something so betting out, then getting called or raised by 2nd guy may scare 3rd guy off. SO i check, let 2nd guy bet, maybe 3rd guy will still call, and then raise or even let them see river. maybe itll pair an overcard too :D

Not much stacks left so i dont think itll make much difference.
 
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