Just a quick question

I don't have the HH (sry about that). Long story short, I got free money from another Website to play at a poker site called Virgin Poker.
Anyways, I took the free money and sat down at the lowest limits they had on that site which is .5/.10. Anyways of to the hand.

I'm UTG, with 87s, so I decided to raise, and this really loose player calls me, and an ultra aggressive guy decides to min bump me, I then decided because this guy who rebumped me has had a tendancey to call on the flop, but usually fold on the turn to 4 bet him with 87s, anyways, the loose player in the middle calls (Now I did'nt expect this guy to call but oh well). The other player still called (That I did expect).

The flop was 456 rainbow, (I was shocked). I decided to check the flop, the really loose guy bets out, the guy I expected to call, does just that and calls, I then rebump it, the really loose player still calls (I'm like this is golden ), the other guy folds (which I expected him to do).

Turn is a 6, I bet 2/3rds of the pot, at this time, the pot was about 17, I bet maybe even more, I bet 12, The guy then pushs, I still called, long story short, river is a 5 and he made a boat, 6s full of 5s, but he called, my preflop raise with 69o, and called, my rereraise on the flop with top Pair, shitty kicker, and I ended up losing the free money in one hand .

My question is did I really just play this hand, really retarded, Should I have just limped into the hand, Should I have just folded preflop.

I swear I'm not kidding about this hand, I would show proof of the actual hand, except they don't have a way to request HH's that I know of

TY all

By the way if anyone wanted to know we were about evenly stacked 23 or so, the one dude with the boat had me coverd by about another 4 or so sry about not including it in the orginal post

I think you just were unlucky. I'm not suprised about the preflop action...people will call with anything. After the flop, you could've pushed once you hit your straight, but with your don..I mean opponent, I have a feeling he would've called anything with his top pair, then after trips on the turn, theres nothing you could've done...he wasnt folding. It just sucks that he hit his boat.

On the other hand, you could've folded to his reraise, but it sounds like you went with your read...so...if you think your read is correct, it's probably not good to second guess yourself, whether your right or wrong, you'll never know till its to late anyway.lol

RichKo said:

I think you just were unlucky. I'm not suprised about the preflop action...people will call with anything. After the flop, you could've pushed once you hit your straight, but with your don..I mean opponent, I have a feeling he would've called anything with his top pair, then after trips on the turn, theres nothing you could've done...he wasnt folding. It just sucks that he hit his boat.

On the other hand, you could've folded to his reraise, but it sounds like you went with your read...so...if you think your read is correct, it's probably not good to second guess yourself, whether your right or wrong, you'll never know till its to late anyway.lol

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Thx rich, I pesonally believe I made the right call, just wrong out come for me. The only reason I decided to bump this hand, was cuz I was totally just card dead, and not to mention my image was so tight that you would think only strong starting hands would've called me, but oh well. It was after all just free money

1st mistake: I'm UTG, with 87s, so I decided to raise...

Without that one the rest never happens. Also when you do hit your miracle flop the best way to get all the chippies in the middle is to bet (not check). You were the original raiser here you're expected to bet out. Slowplaying OOP (or even just playing OOP) is generally not very profitable.

WVHillbilly said:

1st mistake: I'm UTG, with 87s, so I decided to raise...

Without that one the rest never happens. Also when you do hit your miracle flop the best way to get all the chippies in the middle is to bet (not check). You were the original raiser here you're expected to bet out. Slowplaying OOP (or even just playing OOP) is generally not very profitable.

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Thx WVH, but the outcome was still the same, whether I bet or not, that boat was still happening (lol). God micro levels are so much headachs I wonder sometimes. I also get your point about raising it on the flop since I was the orginal raiser, and who knows, they could've had Aces, KINGS, and were maybe still willing to stack it on the flop, but I get your point though

1st mistake (as WVH pointed out)

naruto_miu said:

I'm UTG, with 87s, so I decided to raise

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2nd mistake (IMO)

naruto_miu said:

I then decided because this guy who rebumped me has had a tendancey to call on the flop, but usually fold on the turn to 4 bet him with 87s

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But after those two things you just got unlucky.

naruto_miu said:

Thx WVH, but the outcome was still the same, whether I bet or not, that boat was still happening (lol). God micro levels are so much headachs I wonder sometimes. I also get your point about raising it on the flop since I was the orginal raiser, and who knows, they could've had Aces, KINGS, and were maybe still willing to stack it on the flop, but I get your point though

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The bolded part of your post is the biggest mistake you've made in this thread. The results DO NOT MATTER. The ONLY thing that matters is that you make the play that wins you the most $$ over the long rum. That's it. On this flop you hit the straight against 2 pair, but do you think he would have been willing to stack on the turn if it had brought the 4th card to a straight (3 or 7) instead of giving him a boat? Maybe if he was truely horrible but he'd have certainly been more leary.

Do you always raise your SCs UTG? Do you know your VP$IP/PFR?

So basically you seem to think 4-betting 78s from UTG is totally standard but calling a 4-bet with 69o is awful? Now while granted I agree with you on the second point, you 4-bet 78s from UTG. I don't mind raising it UTG to balance and I don't mind folding. But when you get 3-bet you have to fold without a better read than "I think he'll call flop but fold turn". What boards are you going to fire? What do you think he flats your 4-bet with? Mostly pairs? High cards? 69o? (ldo)

Also you didn't go too far into bet sizing but most 4-bets and flop cbets would pretty much commit you so I basically you're saying he'll call to the point were he's basically committed to stack and then fold.

But as has been said postflop it's a cooler. You have a straight, he has TP, stack to pot ratio is small, checking's fine imo. You got money in good and he sucked out. It happens.

What they said, myself I'm folding 87s UTG every time, is this FR or 6max ?
But Zach he did say they we're all 200+bb deep, around $23 stacks at 10nl.
So it makes sence that they're not committed on flop yet.