IF U were in this situation what would u do?

Call or fold


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naruto_miu

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It's that simple really, what would u differently and why? be as informative as possible ty if u don't mind

pokerstars Game #19476262893: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/08/09 - 04:42:26 (ET)
Table 'Vega' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: joe is red ($78.35 in chips)
Seat 3: simontadema ($22.95 in chips)
Seat 4: DQS80 ($78.60 in chips)
Seat 5: SnakeEyes_1x ($49.25 in chips)
Seat 6: abdi122 ($59.25 in chips)
joe is red: posts small blind $0.25
simontadema: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to abdi122 [7s 7d]
DQS80: raises $1 to $1.50- This guy is a bully, so I don't respect his raises at all when he does raise.
SnakeEyes_1x: folds
abdi122: calls $1.50
phatoscar joins the table at seat #2
joe is red: folds
simontadema: calls $1- This dude on the other hand is, a calling station, and likes to check raise alot of times, with nothing, other then that keep in mind that he has a wide range of hands
*** FLOP *** [8d Qc Ks]
simontadema: checks
DQS80: checks
abdi122: checks
*** TURN *** [8d Qc Ks] [2c]
simontadema: checks
DQS80: checks
abdi122: bets $3
simontadema: calls $3
DQS80: folds
*** RIVER *** [8d Qc Ks 2c] [3d]
simontadema: bets $18.45 and is all-in

DO u fold or do u call?
 
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Insta-fold

Fold.

Your beat by: any pair 88+, 33, 22, AK, AQ, and KQ. Based on your description he could even have Q3!

With the odds you're getting your opponent needs to be bluffing his whole stack 38% of the time here for this call to be correct. If he's playing that poorly then you'll get his money eventually. Wait for a better spot.
 
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It's that simple really, what would u differently and why? be as informative as possible ty if u don't mind

PokerStars Game #19476262893: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/08/09 - 04:42:26 (ET)
Table 'Vega' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: joe is red ($78.35 in chips)
Seat 3: simontadema ($22.95 in chips)
Seat 4: DQS80 ($78.60 in chips)
Seat 5: SnakeEyes_1x ($49.25 in chips)
Seat 6: abdi122 ($59.25 in chips)
joe is red: posts small blind $0.25
simontadema: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to abdi122 [7s 7d]
DQS80: raises $1 to $1.50- This guy is a bully, so I don't respect his raises at all when he does raise.
SnakeEyes_1x: folds
abdi122: calls $1.50
phatoscar joins the table at seat #2
joe is red: folds
simontadema: calls $1- This dude on the other hand is, a calling station, and likes to check raise alot of times, with nothing, other then that keep in mind that he has a wide range of hands
*** FLOP *** [8d Qc Ks]
simontadema: checks
DQS80: checks
abdi122: checks
*** TURN *** [8d Qc Ks] 2♣
simontadema: checks
DQS80: checks
abdi122: bets $3
simontadema: calls $3
DQS80: folds
*** RIVER *** [8d Qc Ks 2c] 3♦
simontadema: bets $18.45 and is all-in

DO u fold or do u call?


No debating the issue. Instant fold...

I cant even see why anyone would call. You cant even beat the bottom card on the board after the flop and I seriously doubt the 2 or 3 helped them unless they'd already paired the board and they gave them 2 pair

What I would have done is raised pre flop. You had position. That may have scared him off
 
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fold it if you didnt hit anything on the flop whit your mid pair
instant fold or try to bluff if you know the other didnt hit anything to but
you should fold there clearly
 
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i'd agree wid fcuremed no question about this...no question about it...easy fold
 
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Fold, no question. I put him on an 8 or possible even a Q (with crap 3 kicker), explaining his check after the flop (not to mention he was also in early (bad) position). Big blind would explain him calling the first small preflop raise to begin with, just defending his blind. He probably picked up 2 pair with the 3, and was no longer afraid of your pair of Ks or Qs. My guess is you folded, since we don't know end of story?
 
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You beat nothing except air so this is a fold.
 
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upon seeing the flop (8,Q,K), im quite sure i will fold too. and i think you'll do the same . i wont be risking my money hoping that another 7 will come out , no way you or i'll gonna call the all-in....LOL
 
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if you don't hit your set on flop, this is an automatical fold. But since didn't on flop. I could call coz if he hit on flop, then he would check raise
 
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TBH you played the hand bad, not sure why you didn't re-raise pre flop, if you had a tight table image you could have taken it right there. A medium cbet would have let you know where you stood, the turn bet was a check, personally I think he had a K and the 2nd club hitting the turn scared him, when the 3 no club rivered, he was golden. Insta fold.
 
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Fold.
And please let me know if you are asking this seriously, and if the answer is YES, then please send me a PM with your weekly schedule because I want be sited in the same ring table with you.
If you are playing those cash levels, so I really cannot understand your question.
Come on dude, is the most easly fold that you can find posted here.
 
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this is a fold

your only thinking about calling because hes a bad player but remember, even bad players hit hands too

so if hes as bad as you say just wait for a better spot
 
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I don't see a call. There is so much that can beat you here.
 
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if you don't hit your set on flop, this is an automatical fold. But since didn't on flop. I could call coz if he hit on flop, then he would check raise

The right answer, and the right call in this situation goes to Zuberman, I swear Zuberman is dead on I can't believe he's the only one that voted for a call, lol, but your right I did beat him and you'll all see now:D

PokerStars Game #19476262893: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/08/09 - 04:42:26 (ET)
Table 'Vega' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: joe is red ($78.35 in chips)
Seat 3: simontadema ($22.95 in chips)
Seat 4: DQS80 ($78.60 in chips)
Seat 5: SnakeEyes_1x ($49.25 in chips)
Seat 6: abdi122 ($59.25 in chips)
joe is red: posts small blind $0.25
simontadema: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to abdi122 [7s 7d]
DQS80: raises $1 to $1.50
SnakeEyes_1x: folds
abdi122: calls $1.50
phatoscar joins the table at seat #2
joe is red: folds
simontadema: calls $1
*** FLOP *** [8d Qc Ks]
simontadema: checks
DQS80: checks
abdi122: checks
*** TURN *** [8d Qc Ks] [2c]
simontadema: checks
DQS80: checks
abdi122: bets $3
simontadema: calls $3
DQS80: folds
*** RIVER *** [8d Qc Ks 2c] [3d]
simontadema: bets $18.45 and is all-in
abdi122: calls $18.45
*** SHOW DOWN ***
simontadema: shows [5c 5h] (a pair of Fives)
abdi122: shows [7s 7d] (a pair of Sevens)
simontadema is sitting out
simontadema has returned
abdi122 collected $45.65 from pot
simontadema leaves the table
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $47.65 | Rake $2
Board [8d Qc Ks 2c 3d]
Seat 1: joe is red (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: simontadema (big blind) showed [5c 5h] and lost with a pair of Fives
Seat 4: DQS80 folded on the Turn
Seat 5: SnakeEyes_1x folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: abdi122 (button) showed [7s 7d] and won ($45.65) with a pair of Sevens

Now you all might be like this is a donkey call, a dumb move, blah blah blah, but the trueth is you know when you play against a person so often you tend to pick up on there betting habits, and there playing style somewhat, well the trueth was this was my first time playing this dude but I noticed everytime he had a monster he didn't do this move he either took it down on the turn, or everything went in on the flop. The opposite thing happens when he has bunk, or is on a missed draw, and he's been caught doing this "SO CALLED ALL IN BLUFF", LIKE 4 times at this exact table, and that's why I called
 
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Now you all might be like this is a donkey call, a dumb move, blah blah blah, but the trueth is you know when you play against a person so often you tend to pick up on there betting habits, and there playing style somewhat, well the trueth was this was my first time playing this dude but I noticed everytime he had a monster he didn't do this move he either took it down on the turn, or everything went in on the flop. The opposite thing happens when he has bunk, or is on a missed draw, and he's been caught doing this "SO CALLED ALL IN BLUFF", LIKE 4 times at this exact table, and that's why I called


No, the right answer is FOLD, even when you won this hand.
Nobody here is thinking that he had a monster, but he can hold 84o, and of course his allin was a complete bluff, but with this garbage hand you were beated.
Was a bad call rewarded by a pot, just that. The result of the hand don't matter here.
And... good luck with those calls. :p
 
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No, the right answer is FOLD, even when you won this hand.
Nobody here is thinking that he had a monster, but he can hold 84o, and of course his allin was a complete bluff, but with this garbage hand you were beated.
Was a bad call rewarded by a pot, just that. The result of the hand don't matter here.
And... good luck with those calls. :p

Well isn't poker about making correct calls? So why would the right answer be to fold? That doesn't even sound reasonable at all, I mean yes it was a tough spot to be in but the correct read worked, if we all just waited around for monster hands, then we would be sitting ducks constantly, waiting to get bluffed. And besides poker ain't about having the nuts all the time, but about making Sane, Calculated calls correct?
 
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Wow, thats like..... very lucky.... id say 9/10 times it wouldnt work out like that though, you beat 55 and 66!
 
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Well isn't poker about making correct calls? So why would the right answer be to fold? That doesn't even sound reasonable at all, I mean yes it was a tough spot to be in but the correct read worked, if we all just waited around for monster hands, then we would be sitting ducks constantly, waiting to get bluffed. And besides poker ain't about having the nuts all the time, but about making Sane, Calculated calls correct?

You posted here a poll asking to us about if the right move is fold or call, the right move is fold no matter what happen later in YOUR hand.
You can read very well your opponent and be pretty sure he is bluffing, but bluffing don't mean NOTHING, as I said bluffing could be 84o, Q5, or many hands that beat you and you cannot even talk about a semi-bluff. An allin there with Q5 is a complete bluff but you lose against this garbage anyway.
So, the right answer for your poll is FOLD, maybe the right answer in your games facing this kind of situation is a call (you won't be far, but is your money) but in a poll posted in cardschat the right answer is fold. ;)
 
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I've seen the outcome of the hand now and I am still going to vote for fold!
 
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Two points, 1/ your original question was misleading as you failed to provide the FULL information you gave in your explanation of why you called. 2/ As the board stood after his river bet, fold is the answer, 'sane' calls are made when you have ALL the information.
 
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Fair enough everyone, I can't agrue with all the CCer's on here at once about my move at all, lol, ok I'll post another one of these in a bit you all just wait, and lets see how this one turns out ty all by the way
 
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It's a fold.

If he turns out to have had the famous UNO card and receipt from K-mart, it's still a fold.
 
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Well isn't poker about making correct calls? So why would the right answer be to fold? That doesn't even sound reasonable at all, I mean yes it was a tough spot to be in but the correct read worked, if we all just waited around for monster hands, then we would be sitting ducks constantly, waiting to get bluffed. And besides poker ain't about having the nuts all the time, but about making Sane, Calculated calls correct?

Just a VERY lucky result, IMO. With the info you gave us, villain plays a wide range of hands and you were beat by countless hands. Your logic/motivation does match the same details you gave us before you asked the question.

Had you included the known betting pattern info that you did NOT give us, some may have answered differently. I still think it's a solid fold though.

BTW - I did not answer the poll since the poll was about as misleading as the OP. You asked "Call or Fold?" Then give us a choice of "yes or no". Did you mean call=yes, call=no, fold=yes or fold=no ... ?
 
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