I play AA weird -- BB vs. BTN NL100 6-max

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I mix up my play with AA because I feel I need to get paid off more on my big hands.

Standard here, I suppose, would be three-bet and take down puny pot. Why not go for more? Yes there's always the danger of not knowing where you stand and playing OOP sucks. But if you're going to play OOP, might as well do it with AA, right?

Because BTN is raising light here sooooo often, I slowplay not one but two streets. Given villain's holdings (try to put him on a hand), I think I played this the best I could here, but in general do you think this is a good idea?

Stacks:
BB with $99.80
UTG with $30.25
MP with $101.20
CO with $66.00
BTN with $88.50
SB with $21.50




Blinds: $0.00/$0.00
Site: full tilt poker
Dealt to BB:A♣ A♥
Sklansky group 1
Preflop:
3 players fold.
BTN raises to $3
1 players fold.
Hero calls [$2]
Total folds this street: 4
Potsize: $6.5
Flop:
9♣ 5♠ 4♣
Hero checks
BTN bets [$3]
Hero raises to $12
BTN calls [$9]
Potsize: $30.5
Turn:
6♦
Hero bets [$25]
BTN calls [$25]
Potsize: $80.5
River:
J♣
Hero bets [$59.80, and is all in]
BTN calls [$48.50] [ all-in ] Uncalled bet of $11.30 returned to Hero
 
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3-bet pre every time. You should be 3-betting a wide range from the blinds, and therefore there should be nothing fishy about 3-betting here.
 
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3-bet pre every time. You should be 3-betting a wide range from the blinds, and therefore there should be nothing fishy about 3-betting here.

This depends on just how much folding he's doing and how much he's adjusting to your 3betting. If he's the type to fold >%75 or %80, then you should generally be flatting your monsters and playing them just like this. Otherwise (ie if they're observant and actually adjust their 3betting ranges, like a ~%60 ft3b player would), you want to continue with your 3betting and see if he outlevels himself.

Stats would be nice here, as your play in this hand depends largely on his tendencies vs 3bets, how much he folds postflop, how much he barrels, how he reacts to check-raises, etc etc.
 
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This depends on just how much folding he's doing and how much he's adjusting to your 3betting. If he's the type to fold >%75 or %80, then you should generally be flatting your monsters and playing them just like this.
I find that even when players don't adjust their calling ranges, they still adjust how they play pots against a light 3-bettor, and stack off lighter. I just can't see how flatting here is good without a very specific read like they're super spewy postflop or they fold to 3-bets like 90% of the time.
 
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3-bet pre every time. You should be 3-betting a wide range from the blinds, and therefore there should be nothing fishy about 3-betting here.

I disagree completely. I love trapping with aces and it can be extremely effective if done correctly. If you're up against an aggressive player who raises preflop, why not just call and appear a lot weaker than you are? Sure, you will occasionally get drawn out on, but you can still win a ton more from the hand if you let them keep betting with a marginal hand, especially because once you raise on the river, there will be so much in the pot that it will be hard for them to fold a marginal hand.
 
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"Because BTN is raising light here sooooo often, I slowplay not one but two streets."

I don't see how you consider a flop ch/r and then leading both the turn and river slowplaying even 1 street. Outside of flatting the preflop steal, your line is about as aggressive as possible. I'm not much for flatting this OOP either but if you know your opponent will fold to a 3bet the vast majority of the time, I guess it's OK.
 
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FYI, no reads on villain.

You're right, I misstated...I did not define my hand preflop and I felt it would be impossible for him to put me on a hand here. If he is stealing light, as is typical of such situations, I don't want to scare him out yet. I'm willing to stack off here if he has outdrawn me because I feel he will call down with a wide, wide range of hands. And I felt this check-raise on a seemingly innocuous board would look awful bluffy. I put him on 77, 88, K9 or so (was totally off); felt a flopped set jams after the check-raise -- anyone care to guess?
 
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anyone care to guess?
*** SHOW DOWN ***
baudib1 shows [Ac Ah] a pair of Aces
Dalmasen mucks [Js 8s]
baudib1 wins the pot ($174.50) with a pair of Aces
Dalmasen is sitting out


:)

I still 3-bet... and I agree with griffey on the "other forum".

If you haven't 3bet someone in a while and you think they are the type to fold to a lot of 3bets, then flatting could be best
You don't know anything about this villain, much less if he's the type to fold to a lot of 3-bets. If he's bad enough to float you on several streets, he's probably bad enough to float a 3-bet pre. Plus, as against unknown, you need to be 3-betting this hand because otherwise you just lose the ability to play for a big pot against a variety of hands that would call.
 
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