How do you protect yourself from Chasers? $1/2 NL

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How do i protect myself from this happening on a consistent basis. I almost always lose Huge pots when people chase their draws.

pokerstars Game #19260180789: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2008/07/31 - 21:47:17 (ET)
Table 'Tucana' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 2: VY (CMa) ($6.62 in chips)
Seat 4: srjlucky ($1.87 in chips)
Seat 5: ziya1968 ($2.19 in chips)
Seat 6: botbot22 ($2.39 in chips)
botbot22: posts small blind $0.01
VY (CMa): posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to botbot22 [Jd As]
srjlucky: calls $0.02
ziya1968: calls $0.02
botbot22: raises $0.08 to $0.10
VY (CMa): folds
srjlucky: calls $0.08
ziya1968: calls $0.08
*** FLOP *** [Jh 5c 9h]
botbot22: bets $0.24
srjlucky: folds
ziya1968: calls $0.24
*** TURN *** [Jh 5c 9h] [7d]
botbot22: bets $0.62
ziya1968: calls $0.62
*** RIVER *** [Jh 5c 9h 7d] [Qc]
botbot22: bets $0.62
ziya1968: raises $0.61 to $1.23 and is all-in
botbot22: calls $0.61
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ziya1968: shows [Kc Tc] (a straight, Nine to King)
botbot22: mucks hand
ziya1968 collected $4.30 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $4.50 | Rake $0.20
Board [Jh 5c 9h 7d Qc]
Seat 2: VY (CMa) (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: srjlucky folded on the Flop
Seat 5: ziya1968 (button) showed [Kc Tc] and won ($4.30) with a straight, Nine to King
Seat 6: botbot22 (small blind) mucked [Jd As]

He was drawing to an Inside straight and of course it got there. Is there any way to protect myself from losing so much money when i know they are on a draw, or should I try to keep the pressure on to extract more value when they miss it?
 
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He was drawing to an Inside straight and of course it got there. Is there any way to protect myself from losing so much money when i know they are on a draw, or should I try to keep the pressure on to extract more value when they miss it?


You answered your own question. :)

The 3/4 pot bets were standard...villian didnt have odds for flush draw, OESD, and certainly not a gut shot.

Just be careful when you have a chaser (there are alot of them on the micros)...if you suspect they hit their draw slow down and don't fall in love your your hand. The one you posted above would have been very hard to get away from...villian just got lucky. If he keeps making those calls you'll win your money back in no time.
 
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well for one, dont play micro stakes, that's the chasers breeding ground. step it up to 1-2 and you won't see nearly as many flops when you raise pre-flop
 
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Simple. Charge them to draw at the horrible draw, and don't pay them off when their draws get there.

Betting the river is pretty thin value. I might prefer a c/c here. Also, I think you have to fold when he raises you on the river with just 2nd pair, top kicker.
 
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Yea. That hand just screams bad beat all over man. Just label him donk chaser and use that to your advantage in later hands. Sometimes people will make some garbage calls out of whimsy too.

I wouldn't fret too much about this hand in the long run. If anything that player just showed the whole table how loose he was and just made himself a target to get played.
 
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You should really edit the title (or a mod should) ... you make it sound like you were playing 200nl. I would agree with a previous responder, that you can take logic and rational thinking completely out of the equation playing 2 cent poker. In all seriousness, this is how people play in Vegas at the 1/2nl tables.
 
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Simple. Charge them to draw at the horrible draw, and don't pay them off when their draws get there.

Betting the river is pretty thin value. I might prefer a c/c here. Also, I think you have to fold when he raises you on the river with just 2nd pair, top kicker.

You are right on the end with that value bet, it was pretty thin, however, he loved those suited cards and I put him on the heart flush draw rather than the KT. So when the queen hit i felt he was trying to bluff at a missed heart draw and possibly had the Qh. I was getting a little more than 4:1 on the river call so I decided to look him up.

You should really edit the title (or a mod should) ... you make it sound like you were playing 200nl. I would agree with a previous responder, that you can take logic and rational thinking completely out of the equation playing 2 cent poker. In all seriousness, this is how people play in Vegas at the 1/2nl tables.
Yea, I noticed everyone titling their posts hundredth decimal place $0.25 $0.50 being titled as $25/50nl How should I post my title as to not confuse anyone?
 
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he loved those suited cards and I put him on the heart flush draw rather than the KT.
So then why bet the river if all flush draws miss? Surely betting to induce a shove is a wee bit too fancy for this limit no?
 
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So then why bet the river if all flush draws miss? Surely betting to induce a shove is a wee bit too fancy for this limit no?

No, I wasn't trying to induce a shove, I have the habit of betting out of position like that because when I check the river after 2 bets on the flop and turn I fell like The play is really weak. I would think they are betting any 2 cards if i check to them on the river, and I am lost as to where I stand.
 
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No, I wasn't trying to induce a shove, I have the habit of betting out of position like that because when I check the river after 2 bets on the flop and turn I fell like The play is really weak. I would think they are betting any 2 cards if i check to them on the river, and I am lost as to where I stand.
Don't think of plays as being "weak". Just bet if you think that you are ahead of the range he would call a bet with.

And you want them to bet any 2 cards. You get value from bluffs at that point, which you wouldn't be getting if you bet.
 
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I don't think you played it wrong you definitely had them paying the wrong price to draw, but if you are ever deeper stacked for more money it helps to keep the pot small so you can pay off small or get away if their hand hits.
 
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