Help with hand - 3bet bluff gone too far

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Mitchel Cornodelli

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0.02/0.04 Fastforward partypoker

Hero - (5s-2h) - SB - ($5.00)
Villain 1 - BTN - ($5.61)
Villain 2 - BB - ($4.44)

PRE-FLOP;
Folded to Villain 1 (BTN) raises $0.14, Hero (SB) raises $0.34, Villain 2 calls $0.32, VIillain 1 calls $0.22.

FLOP; [4H, 3C, JD]

Hero bets $0.52, Villain 2 folds, Villain 1 calls $0.52.

TURN; [4H, 3C, JD, 4C]

Hero bets $1.01, Villain 1 calls $1.01.

RIVER; [4H, 3C, JD, 4C, AH]

Hero bets $1.97, Villain 1 raises $3.72 and is all-in, Hero calls $1.14 and is all-in.
Showdown
Villain 1 shows [AD, 4D]
Hero shows [5S, 2H]
Villain 1 wins $9.85 from the main pot with full house.

Any opinions on my 3bet bluff in the SB? I had no info yet as my hud didnt have any hands on him.
I think my Cbet was good with my straight draw.
I have realised that betting the turn was a mistake, but what should i have done?
And also what should i have done when i hit my straight on the end?

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3betting resteal with 25o seems a bit ambitious. Your mistake was preflop trying to resteal without any knowledge of his 3bet calling range and player type. I think you should go for at least suited hands that play well on flop

Flop and turn seems ok to me. You can get 77-TT, AT, AQ+ to fold. And you had equity. Once villain called turn bet, I would've probably given up but you were unlucky enough to hit your A.
I would've check the river and call hoping to induce a bluff.
 
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I would probably agree that your biggest misstep was the staring point. It was a decent spot but not a decent hand. I know that some people like to try their 3bet steals with total garbage because it is easy to lay down when you miss the flop. However, the flip side to this is that you are only looking for the money already in the pot and have little intention of post flop play. I think you should raise your steal range slightly to encompass hands like 34s, 57s, baby pairs, etc. This gives you a decent shot at out flopping someone when you do get called. When someone does call you can figure they have a good hand which means that you can win very large pots when you hit a flop.
I would agree with frozr that your post flop play was ok. You got a decent piece of a pretty ragged flop. You could probably cbet a flop like this and get a fold a good percentage of the time. Once you do make your hand checking to catch a bluff or value bet from an Ax would be my choice. Unfortunately this was just a bad luck spot. It happens.
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Your preflop aggression is questionable. I have been there, done that. That is all about table dynamics reads. So, for this discussion we will ignore that. So, let’s talk about the rest of the hand.

Why did you play 52o? It was for a small flop or monster that could catch a big hand? You caught the flop you were looking for, great! Open ended rainbow! Now what? You bet ½ pot, nice play. That is what you want on a small flop opened ended.

Now, here is your problem, the board pairs and a flush draw appears. Now any PP or flush draw is either ahead or at even money against you. You bet less than ½ pot. What information do you get out of that? Not much, you are either way behind or even money.

Now you worst nightmare happens, an Ace come on river. You make your hand but have to find out where you are? You played this hand to crush big cards, but you have to remember why these hands have a negative EV value. Does he have an AA, AQ, AK, you have those hands crushed, and just what you were hoping for?

Now, rethink the hand. Villain raised, you re-raised, why? To find out where he was at? When he flatted, you have to eliminate all those hands you have crushed, because he would have 3 bet you. So, now we have to think PP or A rag. Now you bet ½ pot on flop, why would over’s call? Donk call or hit part of flop? Now when board pairs he flats again, donk call or hit him even harder.

Now the Ace becomes irrelevant on the river because if you are betting for information, you should know at this point in time if he is a donk or got he has you crushed. We are no longer thinking AA, AQ, AK, therefore when he made his move you should have folded and no even betted on river.


Biggest thing I could say about this hand is, never change your reason for playing your hand, except for when they give you a reason.
 
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2 things. History on villain?

If your planning to resteal ýour raise needs to be 3x at least.

and if you know that your opponent is weak tight. You can cbet every flop against this guy and your cards won't matter. ***A lot of players play fit/fold on the flop*** Easily exploitable :)

Free money but you need to pick the right villains and that's normally your pathetic regs and tight players ... good luck out there :)



When you learn your spots enough your cards don't matter.
 
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Dude your hand is hilarious I love it you got to crazy that's what went wrong lol big case of fancy play syndrome in this hand but it makes it interesting and fun to read. On a serious note though reraiseing with 2 5 is not a good plan your putting more into a long term loseing hand you should be folding 100 percent of the time in this spot you can't get tricky with a hand like this, oop bluffing is tough enough. since they called and your now reping a big hand the c bet is decent with the outs once he called I would of gave up on the turn checking hoping for a free card. The river sucked but after how much money you splashed around you would have to push as much in because what's the point of making your hand and not extracting but your preflop play set you up for disaster theirs nothing wrong with folding and letting them have the blinds as long as you don't become a push over look for better hands to defend with and I would just have a straight forward style playing these limits.


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Any opinions on my 3bet bluff in the SB? I had no info yet as my hud didnt have any hands on him.

Why are we doing this? Making moves and reraising 52o "just because" and then hoping he folds. If this hand is typically in your 3bet range in this spot then it shouldn't be, and if it's not in your normal range here then you need a good reason in order to make unusual plays. It takes more than button clicking to win at a cerebral game like NLH.
 
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