Help with bet sizing, 25nl FR

Effexor

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Stacks:
* SB with $40.15
* BB with $17.10
* UTG with $27.35
* MP1 with $42.85
* MP2 with $31.90
* MOJOJOJOHERExx with $32.60
* BTN with $24.50

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Blinds: $0.00/$0.00
Site: pokerstars
* * Dealt to SB:K♥ K♦
* * Sklansky group 1
Preflop:
* * 3 players fold.
* * mojojojoherexx raises $0.25 to $0.50
* * 1 players fold.
Hero raises $1 to $1.50
* * 1 players fold.
* * mojojojoherexx calls [$1]
* * Total folds this street: 5
* * Potsize: $3.25
Flop: 9♣ 5♠ 8♣ Hero bets [$2.50]
* * mojojojoherexx calls [$2.50]
* * Potsize: $8.25
Turn: Q♦ Hero bets [$6]
* * mojojojoherexx raises $6 to $12 Hero calls [$6]
* * Potsize: $32.25
River: 5♣ Hero: checks
* * mojojojoherexx bets [$5] Hero calls [$5]
Results:
* * MOJOJOJOHERExx shows a flush, King high: J♣ K♣ Hero doesn't show.
* * MOJOJOJOHERExx collected $40.25 from pot

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Was the bet sizing here ok? I am unsure how to proceed with an overpair to the board, I seem to either bet so much as to fold out weaker hands or not bet enough maybe and let people catch up.
 
blankoblanco

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my biggest bet sizing issue is preflop. 3x their raise should generally be the minimum for a 3bet, and that's when you're in position. here, i think it's important to make it larger because a) his raise was only the minimum; you're letting him control his price too much, and b) you're out of position. if you think $2 is too likely to scare him off, i don't mind making it $1.75-$1.80. but getting that extra couple of BBs in the pot makes a difference as the pot grows exponentially on each street

flop and turn bets are okay with me. you could make either one a little bigger, maybe closer to 5/6th pot on flop just cause it's so drawy, but that's nitpicking. on the turn i think 3/4 pot even on really drawy boards is usually just enough since their cumulative odds are cut in half compared to the flop

on the river he made it so cheap that i'd look him up as well.
 
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This is a tough hand. Villian has a wide range, the flop is dangerous, and the turn/river both complete draws. It's hard to talk about the bet sizing when there's so much going on. My suggestions would probably result in you losing MORE money than you actually did!

Pre-flop I'm looking to re-raise 3x the initial raise. In this case, I'd raise even more. You're certain to have the best hand so re-raise to 3x a standard raise. I like $2.50.

I also think the flop bet is too small. I don't want to see the turn so giving an opponent juicy drawing odds isn't the way to go. A shove only gets called by hands that have you beat. A pot sized bet is in order.

If you're going to bet that turn then you need to bet bigger. I'd say bet the pot. I might have even moved in. I certainly don't like calling the re-raise on the turn. That's a clear raise/fold situation.

I think you have to make a crying call on that river. You don't have to be right very often to profit there.

Again, this is a difficult hand to use to talk about bet sizing. From the flop on you really don't know where you are.

Don't worry TOO much about bet sizing at $25NLHE especially if I'm at your table:p At this level they'll play when they want to; not when the money is right. I don't see this guy laying down his KJ to anything, lol.

Interesting hand.
 
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PF: I'm always leary of minraisers like this. They are either totally clueless or hiding a big hand. You have to judge which it is based on your read, but it is tough. In this case, your raise size was fine since KK is strong enough to want a caller or 2.

Flop: The board has a FD and SD on it. If you assume the villain has something like AQ clubs, then you want to give him poor odds to chase his draws. He'd have about 3-1 to hit with a FD and an over, so making it about 2-1 to call should suffice. Your bet made it 2.3-1 for him, which was fine.

Turn: By betting $6, you made it 1.375-1 for him to call. Just fine. Tough situation, though. His min-3bet was confusing, but I think I'd 4-bet shove here. JT is not likely and neither is a set. That kind of 3-bet from him would smell like AQ to me. The call wasn't horrible, though.

River: Fine. Crying call.

Most of the time, I base my bet-sizing on reads + odds given. It would have been nice to try to figure this out without seeing the results, but no biggie. I think you played this just fine.
 
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