He played it well. How did *I* do?

A dear forum member strips me of my money. I had him on QQ after the flop, but his turn feint sucked another big pile of chips out of me.

Obviously he played this petty darn well.

But what about me?

poker stars, $0.01/$0.02 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

JES2: $0.44 (22 bb)
mparker876: $8.06 (403 bb)
zachvac: $5.20 (260 bb)
cAPSLOCK7: $5.28 (264 bb)
Chiefer77: $6.06 (303 bb)
un-diluted: $6.02 (301 bb)
Ace Daddy TX: $5.11 (255.5 bb)
gumbo 31: $1.58 (79 bb)
facemelter06: $1.76 (88 bb)

Pre-Flop: cAPSLOCK7 is BTN with A K
Ace Daddy TX folds, gumbo 31 calls $0.02, facemelter06 calls $0.02, JES2 calls $0.02, 2 folds, cAPSLOCK7 raises to $0.14, Chiefer77 folds, un-diluted raises to $0.60, 2 folds, JES2 calls $0.42 and is all-in, cAPSLOCK7 calls $0.46

Flop: ($1.69) 7 Q 2 (3 players, 1 is all-in)
un-diluted bets $0.34, cAPSLOCK7 calls $0.34

Turn: ($2.37) 7 (3 players, 1 is all-in)
un-diluted checks, cAPSLOCK7 bets $1, un-diluted calls $1

River: ($4.37) 3 (3 players, 1 is all-in)
un-diluted bets $1.72, cAPSLOCK7 folds

Results (listed below in white, highlight to see): $4.37 pot ($0.20 rake)
un-diluted showed Qc Qs (a full house, Queens full of Sevens) and won $4.17 ($2.23 net)
JES2 mucked Kd Td (a pair of Sevens) and lost (-$0.44 net)

What did you hope to accomplish when you bet the turn?

I suppose that is the really good question. In fact it was fairly quickly on my lips when the call came.

The only answer is I hoped to push him off his obvious giant overpair.

I suppose I was foolishly bluffing the hand HE ACTUALLY HAD, and was the first one in my mind for him after the flop.

How on earth does my brain trick me this way?

That's a pretty dry board on the turn and your ~40% pot bet isn't enough to chase away anything that beats you and you're not getting calls from anything you beat. Basically you're just throwing away $$ as there is no credible sevens in your raise/call 3bet range. He gave you the opportunity to see a free river, you have to take it. Your hand is strong enough without improving to win at SD only if no further bets go in the middle.

Also why would you put your opponent on exactly QQ after the flop (and if you do why call even his tiny flop bet since you need runner runner to win)? Preflop, since he 3bets, I'd say AK/TT+ but once a Queen hits the board on the flop the odds that he holds QQ go way down. Actually against his likely 3bet range folding AK preflop may be best because your equity is ~40% against that range. I guess with position preflop is OK though.

Thanks for the time you're taking WVH. Really...

As to why I thought of QQ first... I suppose it is a combination of two things that amount to little more than voodoo.

1. His PF raise says giant pair. As I have one ace and one king so the QQ pair is slightly more likely than the two better hands.

2. This is the hand that is nearly unbeatable with AK on this flop, therefore because of cAPSLUCK® this is the hand he is likely to have.

Obviously whole #1 is sketchy enough #2 is PURE voodoo. And though I am trying to be funny, I am also being honest. Those are really the two reasons I thought of QQ.

So no argument that the turn bet was the result of either too much beer or a mild seizure. I really have to think these sorts of plays through much better. My impulsive play wins fairly often (at the stakes I play)... but this was a spectacular loss that could have been avoided by being a little more thoughtful.

We were playing kind of crazy at that table too which I'm sure induced the loose turn bet.

Don't put money in the pot drawing dead.

What did you hope to see when you called the big flop bet? I can understand calling preflop, but post flop I think is wrong. Besides the QQ possibility, villain could have easily had AA or KK, and calling with big cards is wrong.

Be glad a A or K didn't show up.......

dj11 said:

What did you hope to see when you called the big flop bet? I can understand calling preflop, but post flop I think is wrong. Besides the QQ possibility, villain could have easily had AA or KK, and calling with big cards is wrong.

Be glad a A or K didn't show up.......

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He's calling .34 in a ~$2 pot on the flop, how is that a big flop bet?

baudib1 said:

Don't put money in the pot drawing dead.

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Pure genius! (for more than one reason)

Check back the turn, fold his obv river shove that is sure to follow.