Hands from 5max 5NL. 88 and JJ. Fold on the river

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It is swedish currency, but it is 0.05dollars for 1 BB

I played 700 hands over 4h. First i was up but then i ended at +- which makes me pretty mad, i am too focused on the money and how i have done, i often see my self looking at the graph at HM2.

The common feeling at those session was fear. Mostly because the board was so damn scary i mostly folded and that made me mad at myself after a while.
I often find myself defend my wins and starts playing tight. Thought like "if he gets you beat 4 hours play are gone".

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88
Hand Information
, 0.5 BB (4 handed).
Hand History converter courtesy of pokerhandreplays.com

Table Information
Seat: 1 Player 1 ($128.84) Dealer
Seat: 2 Hero ($41.08) Small Blind
Seat: 3 Player 3 ($78.5) Big Blind
Seat: 5 Player 5 ($337.99)
Dealt to Hero


Preflop (Pot:0.75)
Player 5 RAISE $1.5
Player 1 FOLD
Hero CALL $1
Player 3 CALL $0.5

Flop(Pot: $3.75)


Hero BET $2.25
Player 3 FOLD
Player 5 CALL $2.25

Turn(Pot: $8.25)


Hero BET $3.5
Player 5 RAISE $7
Hero CALL

River(Pot: $25.75)


Hero CHECK
Player 5 BET $11.5

He is a reg, 28/22 4.0 good stats and 3bb is ok for AJ, AQ and A10, even AK, even if i think that he would do it 5bb with AK.
i put him on AK, i don't think he gets the flush on the flop, raising KQs, KJ K10s with 3bb? why starting to reraise me on the turn then.

I just call the raise on turn, i would call the river bet if the river wasn't a heart.
Now K heart would made him a flush, AQ, AJ too.

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JJ

Hand Information
Game:
Blind: $0.25/ $0.50 Hand History converter courtesy of pokerhandreplays.com


Table Information
Seat1: Player 1 ($59.29)Big Blind Seat2: Hero ($25.63)
Seat3: Player 3 ($23.09)
Seat4: Player 4 ($72.99)Dealer Seat5: Player 5 ($39.39)Small Blind Dealt to Hero




Preflop (Pot:0.75)
Hero RAISE $2 Player 3 CALL $2 Player 4 FOLD
Player 5 CALL $1.50 Player 1 CALL $1
Flop (Pot: $7.25)



Player 5 CHECK
Player 1 CHECK
Hero BET $5 Player 3 CALL $5 Player 5 CALL $5 Player 1 FOLD

Turn (Pot: $22.25)



Player 5 CHECK
Hero CHECK
Player 3 CHECK

River (Pot: $22.25)



Player 5 CHECK
Hero CHECK
Player 3 BET $11.50
Here i am up against two fishes, 50/10 and 50/0 callstation too, especially the 50/0 just calls everything, which made me pretty mad.

I already got scared when the turn card came, now there is both possible straights and flush so i just check and hope that the other two will check it down, so when he bets half the pot on the river he pretty much got me mentally, only thing i see in my head is Q,K and A of heart.
Possible he just had A high and called on the flop to see if his A was good, after all they were callstations.
Top of their ranges here is overpairs, 66, 77, 88.
Or actually the one with 50/0 could have monsters, he had 50/0 after all..

Thanks for all the input!!

I think you played the hands pretty well, if you folded both on the river. But your flop donk bet and the turn bet on the 88 hand are to small imo, especially on that board. You want to make the heartdraws pay for it, for when they don't hit and when you make you full house. When you donk bet, I don't think it's a problem if u bet 2,75-3 and on the turn you bet way to small, make it something like 6 and if he still reraises you than you can be pretty sure he has either AA or he made the flush already, still no reason to fold at that time yet because stacks are getting in by the river if you hit your full house.

On the jacks hand you want to be playing even more aggressive, on the flop you can CBET way bigger against the fish, because on that board they will most likely have draws and underpairs, betting something like 6,5, because there are lots of horrible turn cards (of which 3h is really bad) and you wan't to get value from their draws and underpairs. However when they outdraw you on turn and river it is hard to put them on any worse hand and therefore I think you can just fold.

Furthermore you give the 50/0 and 50/10 fishes way to much credit. you should definitely put them on a wider range

If people disagree just say it, I'm willing to improve my game by discussing these hands.

*your grammar didn't disturb me.

After you donked on the turn in your first hand and got raised i would reraise him because he can have big hearth draw, set of sevens, 2 pair hands set of aces or flush. And you are ahead of everything except AA and you have outs vs flush.

Second hand is ok but you can bet fold the turn if you get raised from the fish. But river fold is good there.

Bet both rivers.

SenorMath said:

I think you played the hands pretty well, if you folded both on the river. But your flop donk bet and the turn bet on the 88 hand are to small imo, especially on that board. You want to make the heartdraws pay for it, for when they don't hit and when you make you full house. When you donk bet, I don't think it's a problem if u bet 2,75-3 and on the turn you bet way to small, make it something like 6 and if he still reraises you than you can be pretty sure he has either AA or he made the flush already, still no reason to fold at that time yet because stacks are getting in by the river if you hit your full house.

On the jacks hand you want to be playing even more aggressive, on the flop you can CBET way bigger against the fish, because on that board they will most likely have draws and underpairs, betting something like 6,5, because there are lots of horrible turn cards (of which 3h is really bad) and you wan't to get value from their draws and underpairs. However when they outdraw you on turn and river it is hard to put them on any worse hand and therefore I think you can just fold.

Furthermore you give the 50/0 and 50/10 fishes way to much credit. you should definitely put them on a wider range

If people disagree just say it, I'm willing to improve my game by discussing these hands.

*your grammar didn't disturb me.

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Thanks for the input!
I really don't like the play on the JJ anymore K,A heart really.. Like you said i am giving him too much respect, this hand was after the 88 and i was running scared, i actually have a flush here, really don't like a scared fold here.

Last example is a clear example of running scared i think now afterwards, the 888 hand is not so clear too me, because what if he has a flush? And this guy is a reg. it's possible he just pick up that i am going passive and he valuebet AK,AQ,AJ. Aj would make very much sense or just any aces, small bet if he has a flush, why not make it very big if he has a nutflush.
A bigger turnbet on the 888 hand is the way i would play it now.

Indeed you are right, from experience I can tell you that when somebody bets half pot on the river, it is quite often gonna be a flush. Have had that so many times already, it is probably because they don't want to make the bluff to big and don't want to make it too small. As well as the fact that half pot barely ever makes sense on the river. If u have a hand and u think your opponent is going to call, than bet big. If he is unlikely to call, you should bet small, 1/3 pot or even smaller. Really sometimes you could bring that up to 1/2 pot, but that won't be that often.

DONT USE THIS RULE EVERYTIME, ONLY WHEN YOU CAN'T PUT HIM ON A REAL HAND AND YOU WERE DOUBTING WHETHER HE WAS bluffing. 1/2 pot itself doesn't make it a bluff immediately