Is this hand played well?it could have a tragic end....

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pokerstars Hand #209685468778: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02 USD) - 2020/03/01 9:52:02 EET [2020/03/01 2:52:02 ET]
Table 'Hertzsprung' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: 07Rus CHegem ($1.84 in chips)
Seat 2: votanic ($1.20 in chips)
Seat 3: lechooo92 ($1.06 in chips)
Seat 4: Stevereno420 ($2.12 in chips)
Seat 5: pavluha13 ($0.81 in chips)
Seat 6: wolololow ($3.51 in chips)
Seat 7: ImJooS ($2.39 in chips)
Seat 8: xela99alex ($2.06 in chips)
Seat 9: Deegii0504 ($2.47 in chips)
Stevereno420: posts small blind $0.01
pavluha13: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to xela99alex [Ac As]
wolololow: folds
ImJooS: folds
xela99alex: raises $0.06 to $0.08
Deegii0504: folds
07Rus CHegem: calls $0.08
votanic: folds
lechooo92: folds
Stevereno420: folds
pavluha13: folds
*** FLOP *** [Tc 9d 8s]
xela99alex: bets $0.04
07Rus CHegem: raises $0.04 to $0.08
xela99alex: raises $0.17 to $0.25
07Rus CHegem: calls $0.17
*** TURN *** [Tc 9d 8s] 5♣
xela99alex: bets $0.34
07Rus CHegem: calls $0.34
*** RIVER *** [Tc 9d 8s 5c] Q♣
votanic leaves the table
xela99alex: bets $1.39 and is all-in
07Rus CHegem: folds
Uncalled bet ($1.39) returned to xela99alex
xela99alex collected $1.32 from pot
xela99alex: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1.37 | Rake $0.05
Board [Tc 9d 8s 5c Qc]
Seat 1: 07Rus CHegem folded on the River
Seat 2: votanic folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: lechooo92 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Stevereno420 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: pavluha13 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: wolololow folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: ImJooS folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: xela99alex collected ($1.32)
Seat 9: Deegii0504 folded before Flop (didn't bet)


How you would play this hand?
 
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I converted your hand for a better view. Replayer on the link: https://www.cardschat.com/replayer/824vFs3yY

Flop: Why only that size bet on the flop? You can bet half a pot there.
Turn: 70% size bet in order to extract value from possible straight or flush draws
River: I check and analyze his action. I may be losing to straight and flush.
 
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I would have played it the same, I think it's fine.
 
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I converted your hand for a better view. Replayer on the link: https://www.cardschat.com/replayer/824vFs3yY

Flop: Why only that size bet on the flop? You can bet half a ýpot there.
Turn: 70% size bet in order to extract value from possible straight or flush draws
River: I check and analyze his action. I may be losing to straight and flush.
Thank you for the comment!I only bet the size of the pot cuz I wanted to see some action from others...or someone to get involved ...I was afraid that if I rise none of them will call!
...and about the turn and river...I knew what the risk were...!this was a lucky hand
 
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Thank you for the comment!I only bet the size of the pot cuz I wanted to see some action from others...or someone to get involved ...I was afraid that if I rise none of them will call!
...and about the turn and river...I knew what the risk were...!this was a lucky hand
I understood your reasoning but you need not be afraid to bet when we have value. You can bet on 3 streets to get the most out.GL
 
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I just bet size higher on F and T. +-70% pot each
 
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I think the line here after the flop is all wrong.

Pre-flop, 4x is fine, especially at low stakes and players tend to call lighter and you'd prefer to be up against just one opponent.

Flop - why so little? You bet $0.08 pre-flop, then you bet half? You're not getting any information from your opponent by betting this little. He will most likely view this as a weak continuation bet, hence why he raised. I actually quite like the 3-bet, but I'd prefer opening to $0.12-$0.15 and calling his raise (if he raises at all when you bet this much).
The turn is a semi-brick. It doesn't help his straight draw and he is unlikely to have bluff raised and called with 2 clubs, so I'd be double barrelling here for around 60-70% pot.
The river is not a good card for you; it completes his straight possibilities with hands like AJ, KJ, JT, which are all in his range. It also completes the (unlikely) flush draw. Shoving here makes no sense to me. What are you beating? Missed straight draws with something like A7s? Or maybe he's got a T or 9, which might pay off a thin value bet. What are you losing to? Any J, 76, T9, T8, 98, clubs, any pocket pair that made a set. Basically, your shove is forcing the villain to either fold a worse hand (you win no more money) or call with the best hand (you lose all your stack). Poker is about maximising your winnings and minimising your losses. I don't think you achieved either here in the long run, even though you won this pot.
 
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PokerStars Hand #209685468778: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02 USD) - 2020/03/01 9:52:02 EET [2020/03/01 2:52:02 ET]
Table 'Hertzsprung' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: 07Rus CHegem ($1.84 in chips)
Seat 2: votanic ($1.20 in chips)
Seat 3: lechooo92 ($1.06 in chips)
Seat 4: Stevereno420 ($2.12 in chips)
Seat 5: pavluha13 ($0.81 in chips)
Seat 6: wolololow ($3.51 in chips)
Seat 7: ImJooS ($2.39 in chips)
Seat 8: xela99alex ($2.06 in chips)
Seat 9: Deegii0504 ($2.47 in chips)
Stevereno420: posts small blind $0.01
pavluha13: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to xela99alex [Ac As]
wolololow: folds
ImJooS: folds
xela99alex: raises $0.06 to $0.08
Deegii0504: folds
07Rus CHegem: calls $0.08
votanic: folds
lechooo92: folds
Stevereno420: folds
pavluha13: folds
*** FLOP *** [Tc 9d 8s]
xela99alex: bets $0.04
07Rus CHegem: raises $0.04 to $0.08
xela99alex: raises $0.17 to $0.25
07Rus CHegem: calls $0.17
*** TURN *** [Tc 9d 8s] 5♣
xela99alex: bets $0.34
07Rus CHegem: calls $0.34
*** RIVER *** [Tc 9d 8s 5c] Q♣
votanic leaves the table
xela99alex: bets $1.39 and is all-in
07Rus CHegem: folds
Uncalled bet ($1.39) returned to xela99alex
xela99alex collected $1.32 from pot
xela99alex: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1.37 | Rake $0.05
Board [Tc 9d 8s 5c Qc]
Seat 1: 07Rus CHegem folded on the River
Seat 2: votanic folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: lechooo92 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Stevereno420 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: pavluha13 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: wolololow folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: ImJooS folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: xela99alex collected ($1.32)
Seat 9: Deegii0504 folded before Flop (didn't bet)


How you would play this hand?

ok you have to make some decisions here what are you trying to get out of this hand...my play is no one hand im stuck on that flop? i probably wind up losing hand and walking.... id have checked flop dont like a str8 or set hand turn is second club now is club flush draw...

if was playing it 2.000 has no meaning? i bet bigger preflop 10 cents i do a flop bet of pot at least.... just my two cents glad you won the hand :)
 
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I think the line here after the flop is all wrong.

Pre-flop, 4x is fine, especially at low stakes and players tend to call lighter and you'd prefer to be up against just one opponent.

Flop - why so little? You bet $0.08 pre-flop, then you bet half? You're not getting any information from your opponent by betting this little. He will most likely view this as a weak continuation bet, hence why he raised. I actually quite like the 3-bet, but I'd prefer opening to $0.12-$0.15 and calling his raise (if he raises at all when you bet this much).
The turn is a semi-brick. It doesn't help his straight draw and he is unlikely to have bluff raised and called with 2 clubs, so I'd be double barrelling here for around 60-70% pot.
The river is not a good card for you; it completes his straight possibilities with hands like AJ, KJ, JT, which are all in his range. It also completes the (unlikely) flush draw. Shoving here makes no sense to me. What are you beating? Missed straight draws with something like A7s? Or maybe he's got a T or 9, which might pay off a thin value bet. What are you losing to? Any J, 76, T9, T8, 98, clubs, any pocket pair that made a set. Basically, your shove is forcing the villain to either fold a worse hand (you win no more money) or call with the best hand (you lose all your stack). Poker is about maximising your winnings and minimising your losses. I don't think you achieved either here in the long run, even though you won this pot.
I thought the same. Congratulations for the analysis.
 
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You did not extract value when you had it and tried to extract it after you had lost it.

Always think what better hands would gold and what worse hands would call.

Very few of both on the river, which makes that street the worst.

Flop and turn surely you should have bet more.

Preflop is fine 4x at micro stakes.

Hope it helps you improve your game!
 
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I think the line here after the flop is all wrong.

Pre-flop, 4x is fine, especially at low stakes and players tend to call lighter and you'd prefer to be up against just one opponent.

Flop - why so little? You bet $0.08 pre-flop, then you bet half? You're not getting any information from your opponent by betting this little. He will most likely view this as a weak continuation bet, hence why he raised. I actually quite like the 3-bet, but I'd prefer opening to $0.12-$0.15 and calling his raise (if he raises at all when you bet this much).
The turn is a semi-brick. It doesn't help his straight draw and he is unlikely to have bluff raised and called with 2 clubs, so I'd be double barrelling here for around 60-70% pot.
The river is not a good card for you; it completes his straight possibilities with hands like AJ, KJ, JT, which are all in his range. It also completes the (unlikely) flush draw. Shoving here makes no sense to me. What are you beating? Missed straight draws with something like A7s? Or maybe he's got a T or 9, which might pay off a thin value bet. What are you losing to? Any J, 76, T9, T8, 98, clubs, any pocket pair that made a set. Basically, your shove is forcing the villain to either fold a worse hand (you win no more money) or call with the best hand (you lose all your stack). Poker is about maximising your winnings and minimising your losses. I don't think you achieved either here in the long run, even though you won this pot.
I understand...I will do by best next time!!great comment by the way:)))you are right in every point!!:cool:
 
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I think, you overplayed your hand and turned it into a bluff. You overbet jammed the river on a board, where any hand with a J has a straight, and 65 has a straight as well. Unless he is a completely clueless fish, he is more likely to fold a better hand than to call with anything worse. Also your flop line was very weird. Undersized bet, and then you put in a 3-bet, when he clicked it back. Made straights are already possible, so the most correct line is to not even bet the flop but try to get to a cheap showdown. Betting is not terrible though, but if you are going to do it, then use a normal sizing like 60% pot.
 
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I am not sure if it is totaly right, but I would had played in a similar way.
 
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PokerStars Hand #209685468778: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02 USD) - 2020/03/01 9:52:02 EET [2020/03/01 2:52:02 ET]
Table 'Hertzsprung' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: 07Rus CHegem ($1.84 in chips)
Seat 2: votanic ($1.20 in chips)
Seat 3: lechooo92 ($1.06 in chips)
Seat 4: Stevereno420 ($2.12 in chips)
Seat 5: pavluha13 ($0.81 in chips)
Seat 6: wolololow ($3.51 in chips)
Seat 7: ImJooS ($2.39 in chips)
Seat 8: xela99alex ($2.06 in chips)
Seat 9: Deegii0504 ($2.47 in chips)
Stevereno420: posts small blind $0.01
pavluha13: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to xela99alex [Ac As]
wolololow: folds
ImJooS: folds
xela99alex: raises $0.06 to $0.08
Deegii0504: folds
07Rus CHegem: calls $0.08
votanic: folds
lechooo92: folds
Stevereno420: folds
pavluha13: folds
*** FLOP *** [Tc 9d 8s]
xela99alex: bets $0.04
07Rus CHegem: raises $0.04 to $0.08
xela99alex: raises $0.17 to $0.25
07Rus CHegem: calls $0.17
*** TURN *** [Tc 9d 8s] 5[emoji814]
xela99alex: bets $0.34
07Rus CHegem: calls $0.34
*** RIVER *** [Tc 9d 8s 5c] Q[emoji814]
votanic leaves the table
xela99alex: bets $1.39 and is all-in
07Rus CHegem: folds
Uncalled bet ($1.39) returned to xela99alex
xela99alex collected $1.32 from pot
xela99alex: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1.37 | Rake $0.05
Board [Tc 9d 8s 5c Qc]
Seat 1: 07Rus CHegem folded on the River
Seat 2: votanic folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: lechooo92 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Stevereno420 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: pavluha13 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: wolololow folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: ImJooS folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: xela99alex collected ($1.32)
Seat 9: Deegii0504 folded before Flop (didn't bet)


How you would play this hand?



Bad bet in river, you are only getting call by better hands, and hands that fold are already hands you are beating in showdown.
 
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I think, you overplayed your hand and turned it into a bluff. You overbet jammed the river on a board, where any hand with a J has a straight, and 65 has a straight as well. Unless he is a completely clueless fish, he is more likely to fold a better hand than to call with anything worse. Also your flop line was very weird. Undersized bet, and then you put in a 3-bet, when he clicked it back. Made straights are already possible, so the most correct line is to not even bet the flop but try to get to a cheap showdown. Betting is not terrible though, but if you are going to do it, then use a normal sizing like 60% pot.
Thank you for your comment ,indid it was most likely a bluff...I didn't know how to play this hand so probably that's way the bet size was wierd...
 
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