Folding Top set??
I dont know if i played this hand poorly for many reasons. but i want your advice mainly on the river action. we are dealing with an NL2 full ring zoom game so i have no reads on the players nor HUD numbers. i sit with almost 2$ (full stack)
UTG opens for 4bb i am in the button with JJ.
i have come to realise that people in NL2 tend to open for 4bb their stronger holdings and especially when it comes to opening UTG. we are both pretty deep and even if i am at the button a 3bet is rarely going to get me action by worse hands. (maybe a middle pair is going to call but then fold if they dont catch their set) so i decide to play it safe in position and call
big blind (also full stack) calls as well..
pot is 0,25$
Flop comes: J,3,2 rainbow.
this is the kind of flop i love. now i wish he has QQ+ so i can play it fast and get the money in ASAP. the BB checks and the initial raisor (to my disappointment) checks back... this board is pretty dry... at best the initial raisor has 88-10,10.. and is probably going to pay 2 streets of value at most. whether i bet flop+turn, or turn+river. but mainly he is going to have many broadway combos... i am not really afraid of the big blind... he had a better price to pay preflop so his range is pretty wide. apart from the obvious 4,5 theres not really any other draw i need protection against. so the best play for value here is to check back and let one of them catch up or bluff, since i figure both of them are drawing almost dead.
Turn comes the 7h. putting a flush draw on the board.
it is again checked to me. here is my chance to get value from the middle pairs and also charge the potential flush draw. so i bet 2/3pot (0,16$) and i get called by the big blind. i currently put the big blind on a flush draw or maybe a small suited connector with a 7... UTG folds. If the flush completes and it is checked to me i am planing to bet and fold to a raise. and even consider folding to a donk bet.
pot is 0,57$
river: 9s... so the flush missed... and then the BB open shoves for 1,6$... almost 3 times the pot...
what the hell... i have top set.. i tank about it. the only hands that make sense and have me beat are Qh10h and 10h8h... would he call with a naked gutshot? (to add more combos of the Q10 and 10,8?) ... i think 99,9% he is not bluffing
. this is a value shove. having a set doesnt make sense... maybe 99 makes sense. (2 combos) i think if he had any other set he would have probably bet the turn... (missed the check raise on the flop).. or even check raise the turn with the flush draw? well on the other hand i have seen way too many stupid plays in microstakes to be able to fold top set in such a board. if there were 3 to a flush i would muck it probably... but could it be that he got one of the 3 outs that beat me and get paid?? the math says fold... but how much discipline does it take to fold top set...
what would you do in that spot? (try to answer honestly)
for the record i ended up calling after tanking and trying to get some info by writing Q10h on the chat and not getting an answer... he had 10h8h... bad thing is if i made the correct fold i would have never known about it... it really is a lose-lose scenario..
p.s. please no comments like "if you bet the flop 10,8 would have folded so you would have. better to win a small pot than lose a big one LOLz" if you even thought about that dont bother commenting. thanks. bye