Originally Posted by dj11
Given that extra info, I call. One of several things will happen;
1 No ace on the flop--- push hard unless it came out flushed or str8.
2 You hit a set - min raise. Especially useful against a LAG. The min raise looks like a halfhearted blocking bet to a LAG and they often just can't help themselves.
3 Ace on the flop ---yuck! Even with A-rag, you're beat here, and LAGS love ACE RAG! If perhaps he has seen you min raise with success, a min raise here might work. If you bet 3x here you could easily take it down, but this is when to consider mucking should you encounter resistance. Even a call of a bet here might be considered resistance. An ace on board is not a good thing here.
I'm responding here largely to keep this thread up top. There are several cash game players here who will hopefully chime in and likely tell you what a donk I am.
Also I reserve the right to recant anything said
Sorry, but I absolutely hate this play. What kind of range are we looking at? If opponent has Ax (probably AK at this point), we want his money in the middle before he can get away from a missed flop. If he has AA, with your example we're paying him off with our stack every flop he doesn't set. So we still pay off the one hand that beats us while taking away value from the hands that we beat (crush I may add). Also, you have a little under 75 bbs. I think there's an error in the HH since you are open raising $12 but it gets to $28. When you add the points that:
1. it's 6max
2. he's LAG
3. you have a smallish stack
I think this is a clear push. If you call this you would have to entertain a fold for a flop that didn't have an A, because the only reason you don't push this is you're afraid of AA. But I push here. I'd probably shove here, because it would get ugly if you just raise to like $130 and then an A hits the flop. Whether to just raise or shove is debatable but I'd definitely say your goal is to get as much money in the pot preflop, this is for value, NOT a bluff. You don't want FE. If you run into AA here, well it's just a bad beat.