Flopped Flush

pokerstars Game #11061642268: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/07/21 - 19:06:57 (ET)
Table 'Atreus III' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: neversuited1 ($35.50 in chips)
Seat 2: unxplaned ($24.75 in chips)
Seat 3: Ron G99 ($11.80 in chips)
Seat 4: Karl Harder ($16.05 in chips)
Seat 6: route666 ($6.40 in chips)
Seat 7: badboy45 ($32.40 in chips)
Seat 8: tonymaclenna ($33.45 in chips)
Seat 9: SamJ33 ($35.30 in chips)
neversuited1: posts small blind $0.10
unxplaned: posts big blind $0.25
SebMarti: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tonymaclenna [Td 9d]
Ron G99: calls $0.25
Karl Harder: folds
route666: folds
badboy45: folds
tonymaclenna: calls $0.25
SamJ33: folds
neversuited1: calls $0.15
unxplaned: checks
*** FLOP *** [5d 8d 4d]
neversuited1: checks
unxplaned: checks
Ron G99: bets $0.75
tonymaclenna: raises $3.25 to $4
neversuited1: folds
unxplaned: folds
Ron G99: raises $7.55 to $11.55 and is all-in


Just wondering ,what do you do here?

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Easy call here. You have a few scenarios. He could have 67 giving him the str8,(most likely), he could have a set, ( his blind call was set mining), he could have an overpair and was slow playing As,(his loss), he could have hit the flush himself,(highly unlikey),or he had TPTK and was trying to give the wrong odds to chase a flush.
On almost every scenario you are the winner. Call and then don't be results oriented if he beat you.

Just what I wanted to hear

The results:

tonymaclenna: calls $7.55
*** TURN *** [5d 8d 4d] [7d]
*** RIVER *** [5d 8d 4d 7d] [8c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Ron G99: shows [2d Kd] (a flush, King high)
tonymaclenna: mucks hand
Ron G99 collected $22.90 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $24.10 | Rake $1.20
Board [5d 8d 4d 7d 8c]
Seat 1: neversuited1 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: unxplaned (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: Ron G99 showed [2d Kd] and won ($22.90) with a flush, King high
Seat 4: Karl Harder folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: route666 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: badboy45 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: tonymaclenna mucked [Td 9d]
Seat 9: SamJ33 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

I was going to say thatin ring games, especially in my experience players will keep any suited cards. I would have thought about real hard when he was so eager to put his money in the pot. Your opponent limping in with some random suited cards should not surprise you! That is a tough call, but I might have layed it down and chose a better spot.

kid_romeo24 said:

I was going to say thatin ring games, especially in my experience players will keep any suited cards. I would have thought about real hard when he was so eager to put his money in the pot. Your opponent limping in with some random suited cards should not surprise you! That is a tough call, but I might have layed it down and chose a better spot.

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With the flop texture as it was I had to bet my Flush - to push out chasers!

But I think I agree with bubbasbestbabe, alot also limp connectors!

Although the table I am playing at at the moment is full of donks - they call a PR of 4BB ($1) with A4, 67c ect.

tonymaclennan said:

Just what I wanted to hear

The results:

tonymaclenna: calls $7.55
*** TURN *** [5d 8d 4d] 7♦
*** RIVER *** [5d 8d 4d 7d] 8♣
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Ron G99: shows [2d Kd] (a flush, King high)
tonymaclenna: mucks hand
Ron G99 collected $22.90 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $24.10 | Rake $1.20
Board [5d 8d 4d 7d 8c]
Seat 1: neversuited1 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: unxplaned (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: Ron G99 showed [2d Kd] and won ($22.90) with a flush, King high
Seat 4: Karl Harder folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: route666 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: badboy45 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: tonymaclenna mucked [Td 9d]
Seat 9: SamJ33 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

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Tony, try waiting longer than 18 minutes to get responses. Sometimes you'll get different opinions to better help you form your own. I usually leave mine up 24-48 hours, depending on complexity.

I was going to say that if you knew your opponent and read him as very tight, then I'd consider folding. Otherwise, this is an insta-call at these stakes versus an unknown. You only fear 4 higher diamonds COMBINED with another diamond in his hand. I only worry about higher flushes when my top card is an 8 or lower. Last night, the same thing happened to me except I had the Queen and he had the Ace. Gotta go with the odds.

Yea nothing wrong there, almost always an instant call for me. Just be glad Villain was shortstacked and move on. Maybe make a note that he likes any 2 suited cards.

Unlike previous posts I will say you made quite a big mistake. You should've raised preflop due to good position and a hand that plays well on flop. Then on the flop make continuation bet, at this point if reraised, fold. It's a VERY SCARY board, you've shown strength PREFLOP AND FLOP by raising twice, so no donkey bluffer will reraise you all in here. The only hand that does that is a higher flush, or Ace-high flush draw with a pair.

The question here is NOT whether you should call the flop push. It should be looking at the mistake you made preflop.

shark vs fish said:

Unlike previous posts I will say you made quite a big mistake. You should've raised preflop due to good position and a hand that plays well on flop. Then on the flop make continuation bet, at this point if reraised, fold. It's a VERY SCARY board, you've shown strength PREFLOP AND FLOP by raising twice, so no donkey bluffer will reraise you all in here. The only hand that does that is a higher flush, or Ace-high flush draw with a pair.

The question here is NOT whether you should call the flop push. It should be looking at the mistake you made preflop.

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ya this is actually true.

Yes easy call but raise it prefold with 9tdd in late position to put pressure on the blinds. Without raising you have no idea what hand they have and could get you in alot of trouble.