Flopped flush

How do I stack this donk?

Seat 1: Bombjack - $90.90
Seat 2: Nikki22 - $8.48
Seat 3: Abdij - $70.11
Seat 4: ravenelli - $25.58
Seat 5: Donk - $115.45
Seat 6: AATERROR - $70.30
Moving Button to seat 1
Nikki22 posts small blind ($0.25)
Abdij posts big blind ($0.50)
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Dealing [ ] to Bombjack
ravenelli calls $0.50
Donk calls $0.50
AATERROR folds
Bombjack raises to $2.50
Nikki22 folds
Abdij folds
ravenelli calls $2.50
Donk calls $2.50
Dealing Flop [ ]
ravenelli checks
Donk bets $4
Bombjack...

Would be nice if you could call, keep ravenelli in the hand, and have them bet and call you all the way to the wire with ace high or a pair of 8's etc. In reality i'm sure we both know what will happen if you call, a club will come on the turn as sure as night follows day (the 5? that would be my guess), and you'll bet and then fold to all-in re-raise.

You'll have to raise to 10 or 12, but i just get a really bad feeling over hands like this.

I say you have to raise the better about 3x what he bet, making it $12, not only do you have the straight flush draw, but you already have the flush, what he is already drawing into. If no club comes on the turn, I bet VERY heavy to push him off his draw, if he didn't have it...okay, if he was on the flush, you made a very good play. Either way you want him paying A LOT to see the river, cause chances are he'll call the flop if he's on the nut flush draw.

You probably don't do what I did and mash the "pot" button, raising to $24.25... upon which everyone folded.

In fact... raising pot would be to $20.25... I'm pretty sure I hit the pot button but then maybe there's something wrong with the pot button on PKR and no-one's noticed yet...

i would probally raise up to $16. and see what happens, hands like this scare me, your flush is only 10 hi, but you got a straight flush draw too, guess it would have to be a Gut feeling draw if he re-raised me allin,, ,,,
buck

Eek.

Raise less to keep overpairs and flush draws chasing. I mean the only hands that are calling you are hands that have you beat, or maybe a set or AcKx for what he would think is a massive draw. But really, you could find out the same info for much less. Say like $12-$16.

I don't think you'll get a stack from him without a set here, or of course a bigger flush. Then again a small flush would probably think he's up against AcAx and may stack you.

But ya I think I reraise to ~$15 and hope we get a call from him.

What do you do if he reraises here?

ChuckTs said:

Then again a small flush would probably think he's up against AcAx and may let you stack him.

What do you do if he reraises here?

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I assume he has 2 overcards with a club or a set, and push. If he has a higher flush, I curse the poker gods and rebuy.

Effective stack here is $90

Pot is ~$12 when action is on you.

If we make a small raise to $12 or so, are we likely to get called? You say villain is a 'donk', in what way is he a donk? Does he bet too much with crap? Does he call too often?

If we raise to $12 and villain calls, pot will be ~$30.25. We can lead a non-threatening turn for 2/3 pot and shove a non-threatening river - we don't necessarily need to make a huge raise here. The small flop raise appears to be the best compromise between potentially getting all the money in further down the line and most likely forcing villain into making a mistake if/when he calls with the Ac/Kc or with weak made hands.

Heck, this is one of the few spots where I don't hate minraising (though I don't think it's the best play available, it's not as terrible as it usually is )

If villain is LAG we could call flop and raise turn, but this is dangerous in that it invites the third player to correctly call the flop if he has a big club.

Edit: If villain reraises flop it's a pretty easy call/shove.

Now I know im new hear and some people would probably say I am wrong for this, but i would raise him fairly big. Not too big though. Just for the reason that if another club comes out, he could have a bigger flush than you. On the turn if it isnt a club he would probably check to you so you could either bet small hoping he thinks you have a weak pair or on a draw and hope he raises or check. If the river is a blank than you know you more than likely have the best hand and he will more than likely bet something thinking you missed it and that he can push you out. Than you can raise or go all in and win the pot. Thats just my view on the hand