flop set, getting value on the turn
Game #10937878975: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2007/07/14 - 16:24:30 (ET)
Table 'Georgia' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: tntbone ($47.15 in chips)
Seat 2: Iceman3008 ($8.35 in chips)
Seat 3: O'DoyleRules ($87.30 in chips)
Seat 4: DJWhiteMike ($49.50 in chips)
Seat 6: Fidji76 ($13.15 in chips)
Seat 7: RocketsBall ($51.55 in chips)
Seat 8: giarre ($27.75 in chips)
giarre: posts small blind $0.25
superneuz: is sitting out
tntbone: posts big blind $0.50
superneuz leaves the table
stapie has timed out while disconnected
stapie: is sitting out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to giarre [Jh Js]
stapie is connected
DJWhiteMike: raises $0.50 to $1
Fidji76: calls $1
giarre: raises $2.50 to $3.50
stapie leaves the table
DJWhiteMike: calls $2.50
Fidji76: calls $2.50
*** FLOP *** [Jc 8d 2c]
Fidji76: bets $9.65 and is all-in
Mosquitoe joins the table at seat #5
giarre: calls $9.65
DJWhiteMike: calls $9.65
*** TURN *** [Jc 8d 2c] 5♦
I know that the 1st thing that'll be said is: why buy-in short? That's my fault and there are no excuses for it, but the reason I did it is because I was 4-tabling for the 1st time at $50 MAX and kind of felt insecure, mostly because I don't really play much ring games and I never 4-tabled even tournies. I know its not a valid excuse but at least I say it as it is rather than making up that I lost it the hand before and didn't have time to refill.
So I have a set and the check on the flop turns out to be a good idea because 1 villain goes all-in for his last $9.65. Smooth calling that also seemed good because I got Mike to follow and throw in money. Now on the turn we have 2 flush draws and I'm left with $14.60, pot is now $39.95. As far as reads I was 4 tabling, but for Mike I can say he looks more on the tight side, so for him to minraise and then call my reraise PF, his range has to be AQ, AT, KQ which could of course be suited, also anything like TT to maybe as low as 77. I'm sure he doesn't have an overpair nor any junk speculative hand lijke Q9, but he could very well have 2 suited high cards, and he has invested $13+ in this pot.
For sure I know that turn didn't help him, cause I seriously doubt he has 55. Being that I'm left with $14.60, what should I do to get the most? If I go all-in and he has a flush draw it would be a stretch for him to call because odds
are less than 4 to 1 and he has no implied odds.
Would you worry about the flush draw and shove even if you might lose him or make like a $5/6 bet to keep him in hoping the river brings a high card and you get the rest? Even if river isn't a high card I could still get more anyway because of pot size, he still could call a bet at that point.
So what would you do?