€20 NLHE 6-max: QQ OOP 4bet pot

IPoker, $0.10/$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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SB: $47.70 (238.5 bb)
Hero (BB): $30.33 (151.7 bb)
UTG: $26.78 (133.9 bb)
MP: $40.99 (205 bb)
CO: $7.25 (36.3 bb)
BTN: $52.82 (264.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Qh Qs
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.60, 3 folds, Hero raises to $2, MP raises to $4.60, Hero calls $2.60

Flop: ($9.30) 6d Tc 5h (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $5, Hero calls $5

Turn: ($19.30) 4d (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $10, Hero ???

Normally i would always fold in this kind of spots , but his fold to 3bet was 20% and 4bet 35% and cbet flop and turn 100% both ( thats why i didnt 5bet shove)over 680 hands, i know that isnt a big sample but it gives me an idea.

got any other stats on villain?

Uh... Shove & fist pump? NH?

Aces2w1n said:

got any other stats on villain?

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Not other as important as the posted before IMO

Vs all the range assuming he has like QKs+ Ajo+ 77+ it is always a good shove right? he showed me aces this time but not being result result oriented its the best play on the long run right?

With his stats, unless he's a 10/10 preflop, that's just a cooler.

So when should you consider shoving QQ and AK c9?

Because I know stats can be quite scattered because they may shove all-in with a looser range against a huge fish but only turn up with KK AA against us.

So when we check their range it's pretty hard to justify calling/shoving against a decent reg.

I would continue if I have deep money.

Here, if I call, I would be pot committed next. I know he'll fire back again next street.

At this point, I just spent 1/4 of my buyin and can still get away from it.

Just fold. When he barrels the turn here, he has KK/AA/AKdd a vast majority of the time. Jacks and Tens would flat IP here with deep stacks. And all his air should be giving up OTT, as we have a pretty strong range when we check-call OOP on a dry board. Even if we're against AKdd, he has 32% equity against us, and against KK/AA we're pretty much dead. And even if he has AKdd and misses or the occasional air, he might end up jamming on a scare card OTR due to our capped range.

It's good that you realize that if you call here, you're pretty much pot committed, and he's most likely going to fire the next barrel. Calling 3 barrels for 150bb with QQ is pretty gross, unless Villain is a total maniac. We pretty much beat nothing OTR when he fires, and putting in 2/3 of your stacks just to fold is pretty bad.

Also, folding pre is fine too. At 20NL, 4-bet ranges are super narrow and are almost always AA/KK and sometimes AK/QQ, even blind vs BTN/CO. I've had about 60k hands at 25NL, and they play pretty passively. At 50NL, from the past 4 sessions I played, I think we need to stack off/5-bet jam QQ/AK blind vs BTN. At 25NL, whenever I got 4-bet and I 5-bet jammed, they never ever folded. They almost always showed me AA/KK/AK, and sometimes QQ. But at 50NL, they are a lot more aggressive, especially blind vs BTN and do fold to 5-bet jams and do 4-bet bluff.

You have shown no real strength at all. What do you think he has 78, KK, AA?
I have to think I'm better. The turn bet to me could be just taking a stab at the pot after some passive play.