€10 NLHE 6-max: Weird line from unknown nit

Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 13/13/1

Just about 36 hands on the guy, my first pot with him. I didn't 3-bet because I didn't like the odds I'd get if I get called/4bet being he's a nit in EP. Discuss.

CO: €10.54
Hero (BTN): €10.00
SB: €4.32
BB: €9.98
UTG: €11.78
MP: €10.27

SB posts SB €0.05, BB posts BB €0.10

Pre Flop: (€0.15) Hero has A:spade: K:diamond:

fold, MP raises to €0.35, fold, Hero calls €0.35, fold, fold

Flop: (€0.85, 2 players) 7:diamond: Q:club: J:diamond:
MP checks, Hero bets €0.63, MP calls €0.63

Turn: (€2.11, 2 players) A:heart:
MP bets €1.58, Hero calls €1.58

River: (€5.27, 2 players) Q:spade:
MP bets €7.71 and is all-in, Hero ???

That is a weird line. It kind of look like a AQd line. Not scared of the flush draw on the flop and leads out on the turn.... I fold if he is a nit.

find a fold somewhere

brank said:

That is a weird line. It kind of look like a AQd line. Not scared of the flush draw on the flop and leads out on the turn.... I fold if he is a nit.

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baudib1 said:

find a fold somewhere

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I just have one question : Why wouldn't he cbet the flop with AQ, or any Q?
Nits usually cbet, and this is a wet board; He cbet 2/2 for the hands I had on him

I would think that him not c-betting is a sign of strength. Maybe hoping you catch up...

I think you can find better spots to put it in. That's what he said:marchmell

HomeBrewer said:

I would think that him not c-betting is a sign of strength. Maybe hoping you catch up...
I think you can find better spots to put it in. That's what he said:marchmell

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I don't understand though. On a doubletone, connected flop what can I improve to, a flush or a straight? Even with a set checking makes little sense here. If it had been Q22 rainbow sure

Who is the jumping critter that said all this btw? I want to have a word with 'it'.

Just because he's a nit doesnt mean he wont slowplay two pair or a set on a wet board. You can still be tight and a bad player

Ok thanks for the responses. Remembering my thought process at the time, sets look unlikely because he c/c flop, leads turn. If he had a set he would c/r my flop bet or wait to c/r turn, his line makes very little sense for a set.

What really puzzled me was that he lead the turn representing an A, but when the Q came he shoved representing a Q. I mean if you have AT, AJ etc. you have to be scared of the second Q. AQ is a possibility but less likely because of the 2 Q's on the board and my blocker. I really didn't trust him to call a 3bet with KT OOP when he raised in early position being the nit he is, although everything is possible at 10nl. And any A he can have I beat or split (except for AA, which is again unlikely because no 4-bet)

So I called and he had 109 os. Not being results oriented here, but was my thinking this hand good enough to be profitable or did I make a mistake in that thinking?

mistake was not 3betting pre

bgomez89 said:

mistake was not 3betting pre

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That's not a mistake with AK vs an UTG opening nit imo. I think it's more EV than 3betting.

But why was my play a mistake? I did win the hand, but disregarding that why was calling a mistake here? You think he has Qx or a boat here more than air, considering his line?

not saying postflop was a mistake.

What range are you putting him on? If you're scared he has a better hand than you and you'll get 4bet just remember that even though he has been playing nitty, it's only 36 hands and he could def. be opening 66+,ATs+,KTs+,QTs+,JTs,ATo+,KTo+,QTo+ of which you're ahead. If you get 4bet I don't know, a lot of people here have told me to get it AIPF with AK but since this guy has been playing really tight you could fold, which is not really a big deal.

If you didn't want to 3bet because you thought he might fold, then what would you 3bet with?

bgomez89 said:

not saying postflop was a mistake.

What range are you putting him on? If you're scared he has a better hand than you and you'll get 4bet just remember that even though he has been playing nitty, it's only 36 hands and he could def. be opening 66+,ATs+,KTs+,QTs+,JTs,ATo+,KTo+,QTo+ of which you're ahead. If you get 4bet I don't know, a lot of people here have told me to get it AIPF with AK but since this guy has been playing really tight you could fold, which is not really a big deal.

If you didn't want to 3bet because you thought he might fold, then what would you 3bet with?

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lol I 3-bet plenty. But we want to play with AK not just pick up the blinds, and AK is a great hand to play in position.

The issue with 3-betting it is what happens when we get called, we are usually flipping with the calling range and it's hard to win money post flop. I don't hate it but I like calling better. The range you gave him for raising is exactly why I called, I want to play against all that range.

Out of curiosity, why don't you think I misplayed post flop? Thought your first message implied I should fold

No i was just saying that even though he had been playing tight he could still be dumb enough to slow play something on the flop.

You made valid points on not 3 betting here but I still prefer it