lasvegaspokerchick
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Silver Level
Last night Happy Donkey got into an interesting confrontation and I wanted to get some feedback on the concept of the diminishing value of AK in a multi-way pot. The action went down as follows:
Happy Donkey came in from early position for a raise ($12), a middle position player pushed for about $45 (he was short stacked) and the button over pushed for a little over $100 (also short stacked.) Now this table had been playing very weak tight so we can assume that both players have some sort of legitimate hand. Happy Donkey over called (he more than had them both covered) with AK off.
Later we discussed the hand and I disagreed with his call. I argued that when you have more than one player moving all in (if you believe that they are pushing with legitimate hands) the value of your AK diminishes with each additional caller. Of course, you could be dominated by AA or KK, but that wasn't my point in this instance. Even if you aren't dominated, I have read that the more people enter a raised pot before you, the worse AK becomes because of the likelihood that others hold aces and kings in their hands.
Anyway, Happy Donkey ended up facing JJ and AQ and lost to JJ. But beyond that, I am hoping to get some insight into what everyone thinks about that concept of AK being less valuable in a multi-way situation. I will use your insights on my blog entry today, so lay it on me.
Happy Donkey came in from early position for a raise ($12), a middle position player pushed for about $45 (he was short stacked) and the button over pushed for a little over $100 (also short stacked.) Now this table had been playing very weak tight so we can assume that both players have some sort of legitimate hand. Happy Donkey over called (he more than had them both covered) with AK off.
Later we discussed the hand and I disagreed with his call. I argued that when you have more than one player moving all in (if you believe that they are pushing with legitimate hands) the value of your AK diminishes with each additional caller. Of course, you could be dominated by AA or KK, but that wasn't my point in this instance. Even if you aren't dominated, I have read that the more people enter a raised pot before you, the worse AK becomes because of the likelihood that others hold aces and kings in their hands.
Anyway, Happy Donkey ended up facing JJ and AQ and lost to JJ. But beyond that, I am hoping to get some insight into what everyone thinks about that concept of AK being less valuable in a multi-way situation. I will use your insights on my blog entry today, so lay it on me.