Confused Queens after 3bet

Mase31683

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No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (7 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
MP1 ($4.45)
MP2 ($3.40)
CO ($10.05)
Hero (Button) ($13.45)
SB ($9.90)
BB ($1.85)
UTG ($1.30)
Preflop: Hero is Button with Q
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, Q
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2 folds, MP2 raises $0.30, CO raises $0.90, Hero calls $0.90, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.60
Flop: ($2.85) 9
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, 4
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, 9
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(3 players)
MP2 bets $2.50 (All-In), CO calls $2.50, Hero ???



Are queens good here? New to table, no info on 3bet ranges at all. Are queens good enough to 4bet preflop, or is that just going to elicit folds from weaker hands and getting my stack in against KK+?

Then first player shoves the flop, I'm fine calling that, but then the 3better flat calls. Hmmm time to think???
 
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they are good, ur playing low lvl there just donking
 
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wow... i think you were beat.... because no1 would put 2.50 in the pot and there wouldnt be a caller with anything unless they had a 9 or a flush draw.. but i would even fold if they had a flush draw because most likely it will prob catch.. but with a huge stack like that in 13 bucks... i would call the 2.50 mostly for info... because u can only buy in for 10 bucks so even if u lose ur still + 1 buck
 
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Okay, I guess maybe I should just ask what's the average $10NL player's 3bet range. Because that's the only part of this question that's relevant. Obviously this board was extremely unlikely to help his hand. But is he really calling a pot-sized all in with another player yet to act behind him with air here? Doesn't seem likely.

So it becomes, what was his original 3bet range? Is it going all the way to TT? Even lower??? Is it just AA-KK? I really have no idea, which is why this was a tough spot for me.
 
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I'm just terrible aren't I? This thread should be renamend, Mase31683 is kind of bad at the pokers, lol. Seriously though, I'm really befuddled with this hand. Anything???
 
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Im not really that worried about MP2 as he's shoving really wide on that flop and he probably just shoves KK or AA pre. I think CO would play TT or JJ this exact way, maybe even some pairs like 88 or 77 given how wide MP2 could be shoving.

This decision is kind of tough without the 3Bet ranges but I personally would lean towards calling flop and re-evaluating turn. I would guess he would slow down with JJ or TT after you call but again without stats on villain it's really hard to know.
 
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I would be more worried about co having AA or KK than the other guy who didn't rereraise preflop. I'd say its unlikely though. At those limits I'd have to look them both up. I'd say they both had middle pocket pairs.
 
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