Chuck said it was obviously AA.....

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How do you play it?
How do you get maximum value?

Here it is;

full tilt poker Game #2056084902: Table Crimson Clover - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:03:50 ET - 2007/03/24
Seat 1: Bombjack_x ($15.20)
Seat 2: gord962 ($13.90)
Seat 3: Romerius ($10.35)
Seat 4: ChuckTs ($25.25)
Seat 5: Freakakanus ($9.90)
Seat 6: Kenzie 96 ($9.80)
Seat 7: FABABA ($15.10)
Seat 8: LoDog33 ($4.40)
Seat 9: Blood In Water ($9.95)
Bombjack_x posts the small blind of $0.05
gord962 posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Freakakanus [Ah Ac]
Romerius folds
ChuckTs raises to $0.35
Freakakanus raises to ???
Kenzie 96 folds
FABABA calls $???
LoDog33 folds
Blood In Water folds
Bombjack_x folds
gord962 folds
ChuckTs calls
*** FLOP *** [4d 4c As]
ChuckTs checks
Freakakanus ???
FABABA checks
*** TURN *** [4d 4c As] 5♠
ChuckTs checks
Freakakanus ???
FABABA checks
*** RIVER *** [4d 4c As 5s] 4♠
ChuckTs checks
Freakakanus bets ???
FABABA calls
gord962: last orbit for me
ChuckTs folds
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Freakakanus shows [Ac Ah] (a full house, Aces full of Fours)
FABABA mucks
Freakakanus wins the pot (???) with a full house, Aces full of Fours
*** SUMMARY ***


What's the most you get from this pot?
 
ChuckTs

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Wow HH didn't come out properly :/

I didn't mean to sound cocky or rude by saying that, freak, but it just did seem obvious to me.

A reraise preflop from you screams strength to me (although for whatever reason you were actually playing LAG that session), especially when it's that small (more inviting). After a big reraise PF, and you immediately slowing down on that board, I just assumed it was either AA or something like JJ that wanted to see a showdown, but with your river bet it had to be AA.

It's tough getting any chips out of these situations unless someone's hit another overfull or they have trips; I probably lead the turn then cry when they all fold :/
 
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I think you got all the action you were going to. Doesn't look like anyone had the case ace and all those 4's just took up space and killed any draws. I might have called a suck bet on the river just to see what you had.
 
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Yes it did Chuck...I just wanted people to put their own values in. I could repost what really happened....
 
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Chuck, you aren't cocky or rude.....You obviously knew what it was which I think is cool. This is the whole thing.

Full Tilt poker game #2056084902: Table Crimson Clover - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:03:50 ET - 2007/03/24
Seat 1: Bombjack_x ($15.20)
Seat 2: gord962 ($13.90)
Seat 3: Romerius ($10.35)
Seat 4: ChuckTs ($25.25)
Seat 5: Freakakanus ($9.90)
Seat 6: Kenzie 96 ($9.80)
Seat 7: FABABA ($15.10)
Seat 8: LoDog33 ($4.40)
Seat 9: Blood In Water ($9.95)
Bombjack_x posts the small blind of $0.05
gord962 posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Freakakanus [Ah Ac]
Romerius folds
ChuckTs raises to $0.35
Freakakanus raises to $0.60
Kenzie 96 folds
FABABA calls $0.60
LoDog33 folds
Blood In Water folds
Bombjack_x folds
gord962 folds
ChuckTs calls $0.25
*** FLOP *** [4d 4c As]
ChuckTs checks
Freakakanus checks
FABABA checks
*** TURN *** [4d 4c As] 5♠
ChuckTs checks
Freakakanus checks
FABABA checks
*** RIVER *** [4d 4c As 5s] 4♠
ChuckTs checks
Freakakanus bets $1.95
FABABA calls $1.95
gord962: last orbit for me
ChuckTs folds
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Freakakanus shows [Ac Ah] (a full house, Aces full of Fours)
FABABA mucks
Freakakanus wins the pot ($5.30) with a full house, Aces full of Fours
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $5.85 | Rake $0.55
Board: [4d 4c As 5s 4s]
Seat 1: Bombjack_x (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: gord962 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: Romerius didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: ChuckTs folded on the River
Seat 5: Freakakanus showed [Ac Ah] and won ($5.30) with a full house, Aces full of Fours
Seat 6: Kenzie 96 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: FABABA mucked [Ad Jd] - a full house, Fours full of Aces
Seat 8: LoDog33 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: Blood In Water (button) didn't bet (folded)
 
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I think you played it fine; I probably lead the turn and hope someone might call with a spade draw or medium pair, but really I don't think you could have made much more on that hand.

You played it fine; that board really crippled the deck and the majority of the time you're not getting anyone to put in another cent into that pot. I was pretty surprised to see AJ check behind you to the river actually.
 
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Check on flop is fine. Could be AA but could also be KK or QQ afraid of the ace. Once it's checked around on flop and checked to you on the turn, I probably bet smallish (but not too small) here, as if you're trying to find out where your KK/QQ is at, or else I think it starts getting obvious-looking. But I don't hate a turn check against players that aren't exactly the best/most thinking players. Obviously Chuck is good enough to have paid attention and logically realized you almost absolutely have to have AA or AK once you bet that big on the river, but your other villain may not have been so perceptive (meaning he might have called even if the 4 didn't come on the river, relying on his J kicker)
 
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Good Play

I would play it the same way which was check, check, check. I think you eventually had a pot of about $18. Good hand.
 
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Freak it so happens that I know the perfect way to play that hand to extract maximum value, but since you waited until I was tired & took all my money, up yours buddy! :D
 
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LOL, what's worse is I then donked it all off to the other guys at the table and went home broke!
 
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The only thing I would do different is probably raise a little more preflop. Maybe if you had been playing LAG like Chuck said you should have bet the flop, but i know you would have hated to see both people fold after that flop.
 
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