c9h13no3
Is drawing with AK
Silver Level
This is pretty murky. I think you're looking at a split pot at best, and a set could *really* take a line like this. You're also not even getting 2:1 on your $, so we have to be correct in this call really often to make this play profitable.
This is a microstakes game, but even then, the regulars you encounter will generally be decent players. Loose calls on the river like this can really get you in trouble, and we can find hands against fish that are better places for our $. This looks a lot like TT, 9T, or J9. Maybe another queen that had a bigger draw than you on the flop, like QJ, or QcXc.
There's just so few hands out there that take this line that we beat. To me, sitting here with plenty of time to ponder this decision, this is an easy fold.
I like the large-ish turn bet too btw.
/me opts for fold
This is a microstakes game, but even then, the regulars you encounter will generally be decent players. Loose calls on the river like this can really get you in trouble, and we can find hands against fish that are better places for our $. This looks a lot like TT, 9T, or J9. Maybe another queen that had a bigger draw than you on the flop, like QJ, or QcXc.
There's just so few hands out there that take this line that we beat. To me, sitting here with plenty of time to ponder this decision, this is an easy fold.
I like the large-ish turn bet too btw.
/me opts for fold
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insolitude
Rock Star
Silver Level
Okay, I'm sure you guys already know the end of this story.
A couple of walkaways for me.
* I hadn't really considered that the best I could hope for was a split pot. I had put speedcake on K(9-J), but when he came over the top I feared the FH. I really need to consider whether I'm overvaluing a likely draw in these kinds of situations.
* I need to take more time to make these kinds of decisions. I have a good ~30k hands under my belt, and I've never requested time.
After the hand was over speedcake said he probably would have been chased off with a bigger bet on the turn. Anyone think this hand warranted a bigger turn bet? If so, please explain.
TIA
A couple of walkaways for me.
* I hadn't really considered that the best I could hope for was a split pot. I had put speedcake on K(9-J), but when he came over the top I feared the FH. I really need to consider whether I'm overvaluing a likely draw in these kinds of situations.
* I need to take more time to make these kinds of decisions. I have a good ~30k hands under my belt, and I've never requested time.
After the hand was over speedcake said he probably would have been chased off with a bigger bet on the turn. Anyone think this hand warranted a bigger turn bet? If so, please explain.
TIA
c9h13no3
Is drawing with AK
Silver Level
I don't mind the bet on the turn, and I think the size is about right. He liked his hand fairly well from the pot bet on the flop, and we're likely to bluff at a scare card like that on the turn, so he's likely to call a fairly good sized bet here.
So we got him to call against odds, which is great since we don't want him to go away. He's drawing to 4 outs. I think you could've gotten him to call a slightly higher bet on the turn, but the sizing is really about right.
The main thing is that we have 2nd nuts right now, and we want to charge all those drawing to a better hand. Villain's range may have a flush draw, or various draws to a boat. Draws to a boat are about 1:3.5 (if he's holding TT), and draws to a flush are about 1:4. So we need to offer him at least ~2.5:1 pot odds to make his call a mistake, and that's exactly what you offered him. You maybe could've gotten him to call up to ~$1.20, but the turn bet size was about perfect.
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SeanyJ
Legend
Silver Level
Well you can fold because it is pretty clear that you are beat or just going for a tie, throwing away 6 dollars to try and split the pot doesn't make any sense.
38special
Enthusiast
Silver Level
this is an easy fold, mainly because the board is paired. if not for the pair i probly call here most of the time, if he has the bigger strait on a hand like this i suspect we would have got all the money in on the turn.
