c9 Session Analysis 25NL 6max vid

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So while I played a sh1t ton of hands really poorly in this vid, I'd like to defend my play in this hand:

Villain is a 26/7/29% that folds to 67% of c-bets over 58 hands.

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Seat 3 is the button
Seat 1: kmj_64 ( $8.78 USD )
Seat 2: rob2776 ( $7.45 USD )
Seat 3: projectuber ( $26.98 USD )
Seat 5: ClaireBears ( $22.38 USD )
Seat 6: Hero ( $29.42 USD )
ClaireBears posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
Hero posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ As 3d ]
kmj_64 folds
rob2776 folds
projectuber folds
ClaireBears calls [$0.15 USD]
Hero raises [$1.00 USD]
ClaireBears calls [$1.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ :qd4: :qh4: :5c4: ]
ClaireBears checks
Hero checks
** Dealing Turn ** [ :qd4: :qh4: :5c4: :8c4: ]
ClaireBears checks
Hero checks
** Dealing River ** [ :qd4: :qh4: :5c4: :8c4: :ac4: ]
ClaireBears bets [$2.50 USD]
Hero calls [$2.50 USD]
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So BW07507 really advocates c-betting this flop, and I think that's pretty bad. Our hand has immediate showdown value against his range. Most of the time, against this fairly passive villain, we can check this hand down and win the pot.

However, when we bet, no worse hands are calling us. A2 is the only worse ace high, and no pairs are folding at this limit. So this bet is only for protection.

So if our opponent has a hand like 78os, then he has 27% equity in the pot, or $0.54 in this case. So if we bet half pot, we're charging villain $1 to get him to fold the $0.54 in equity that he has in the pot. It just doesn't seem like a good trade.

Add in the fact, that against villain's range of the top 26% of hands (altho, it might be wider than that) we only have 36% equity against.

So when we c-bet this flop, all worse hands fold, and all better hands call. Therefore, I don't think there's any value in c-betting this flop. Against all but the most loose/aggressive of opponents, who are going to be bluffing with air often, I check this flop behind in an attempt to showdown my ace high.
 
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I would fear a trap play by ClaireBears having a Q or a pocket 5. Then, when seeing you're checking around the flop and turn after raising pre-flop, it should indicate you have an Ace,X maybe even suited...
A bet on that river with 3 of a kind is a good move by ClaireBrears, I would not have called it if I were you.
 
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I would fear a trap play by ClaireBears having a Q or a pocket 5. Then, when seeing you're checking around the flop and turn after raising pre-flop, it should indicate you have an Ace,X maybe even suited...
A bet on that river with 3 of a kind is a good move by ClaireBrears, I would not have called it if I were you.
I'm gonna say this in a nice way. You're absolutely horrible at hand analysis.

Maybe I was lying about the nice part. Sorry, but I'm on a downswing, so my level of niceness is like -500 billion.

EDIT - Okay, that was a little mean. But the point still stands. You put players on a range of hands. All you have is that he called a bet preflop, and checked every street. My hand is so under-repped its silly, and to fold to a river bet when his range is that wise is... un-wise.
 
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I'm gonna say this in a nice way. You're absolutely horrible at hand analysis.

Maybe I was lying about the nice part. Sorry, but I'm on a downswing, so my level of niceness is like -500 billion.

EDIT - Okay, that was a little mean. But the point still stands. You put players on a range of hands. All you have is that he called a bet preflop, and checked every street. My hand is so under-repped its silly, and to fold to a river bet when his range is that wise is... un-wise.

Sorry to hear about your downswing.
There isn't ONE single way of playing Poekr, I just gave you another angle to think about. I know I could've played that way if I had a Q or a pocket 5, and then you would've lost big time!
 
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and then you would've lost big time!
If by big time you mean $2.50 here, then yes. Slow-playing for all but the last street is a pretty bad way to play it. While this guy is a bad player, I'm not sure he's that bad.
 
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