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Ok so I made a play today during my session and I wanted some insight. My session started off less than desirable and to say the least it was a day filled with suck outs and admittedly a couple bad plays. One of the plays started off playing 1-3NL with me a late position open with A-5 of clubs for $15. Two callers, utg +2 (passive) and middle position (loose). The flop came 4-5-K rainbow. Utg +2 bets out for $25 with a fold from middle position and a float from myself. My plan obviously is to raise the turn regardless. The turn is a J of clubs setting me up for the nut flush draw along with a pair and an over. Now I know this player is a passive semi tight player but has opened up due to his stack dwindling. The player proceeds to bet $60 into the pot. Now I've been getting sucked out on and showed a couple bluffs but tightened up and won a few showdown hands and my image is one to be tight aggressive. I don't put him that strong and decide I want to take the pot down immediately if possible. I decide to semi bluff and raise to $160. The player hesitates but calls my raise. My theory is if he was that strong he comes over the top. The river pairs the board with 4 of diamonds which is irrelevant and if he filled up obviously I a majority of the time find out right here. The player checks and I jam for $300 of my remaining stack. The player tanks and calls revealing AK. I would like to know thoughts on this.
 
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dont like the raise turn because he is repping the king by leading out..i would just check call both streaks and fold to river. when your bluffing river make sure the board isnt paired because its way easier for him to call instead of the river being a 10 or Q..
 
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The fact that he leads out into the open raiser signifies a strong hand. (He is Donk betting)

I think the fact that you planned on raising the turn no matter what was iffy. The fact that you did it with the nut flush draw turns it into a decent semi bluff.

I don't hate the river jam, I actually hate that he called the raise and river jam with TPTK on a paired board.

This makes villain a perfect target for set mining and that information is almost worth the $500 you payed. Hope you see him again!
 
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Passive players don't usually lead out unless they are strong, passive = check/call. He's trying to build the pot so you should know he's strong. Generally its not a good idea to try and bluff players off of strong ranges.
You also stated you had shown a couple of bluffs which is probably the most revealing bit of info. Players have long memories in this area, he knows you are capable of bluffing and the board isn't particularly dangerous. 45KJ...You are basically repping a set or a draw and sets are hard to hit and any draws missed....so in my opinion it's not a good spot to bluff and tbh I don't hate his call in the circumstances of you being a known bluffer. This being at least your 3rd bluff being caught. he or someone else at the table will pay you off when you do hit so make sure you fast play your value hands as well.
 
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The fact that he leads out into the open raiser signifies a strong hand. (He is Donk betting)

I think the fact that you planned on raising the turn no matter what was iffy. The fact that you did it with the nut flush draw turns it into a decent semi bluff.

I don't hate the river jam, I actually hate that he called the raise and river jam with TPTK on a paired board.

This makes villain a perfect target for set mining and that information is almost worth the $500 you payed. Hope you see him again!



I agree with most of what you're saying but the bet out typically classifies as a weak lead since there's no flush draws or really any on the flop
 
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Similar to what others have said, his flop bet telegraphs strength (likely a king), so right away bluffing him out will be difficult.

On the turn, if ur trying to semi-bluff, remember the BLUFF part of that...we really want to win the pot there if possible (we're ~30% to hit). Try raising more next time bc u know he was gonna call there, leaving u with a tricky decision on the river if/when u miss.

On the river, like others said, the paired board makes his hand STRONGER, so he's now more likely to call a bet from you (aside from seeing u bluff before). All-in was probably the only way u could win the hand, but his chances of folding were iffy.
 
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Ok so I made a play today during my session and I wanted some insight. My session started off less than desirable and to say the least it was a day filled with suck outs and admittedly a couple bad plays. One of the plays started off playing 1-3NL with me a late position open with A-5 of clubs for $15. Two callers, utg +2 (passive) and middle position (loose). The flop came 4-5-K rainbow. Utg +2 bets out for $25 with a fold from middle position and a float from myself. My plan obviously is to raise the turn regardless. The turn is a J of clubs setting me up for the nut flush draw along with a pair and an over. Now I know this player is a passive semi tight player but has opened up due to his stack dwindling. The player proceeds to bet $60 into the pot. Now I've been getting sucked out on and showed a couple bluffs but tightened up and won a few showdown hands and my image is one to be tight aggressive. I don't put him that strong and decide I want to take the pot down immediately if possible. I decide to semi bluff and raise to $160. The player hesitates but calls my raise. My theory is if he was that strong he comes over the top. The river pairs the board with 4 of diamonds which is irrelevant and if he filled up obviously I a majority of the time find out right here. The player checks and I jam for $300 of my remaining stack. The player tanks and calls revealing AK. I would like to know thoughts on this.

First thought is that you should never do this again. With middling pairs and passive players donk betting you need to fold/flat.
 
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